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    Quote Originally Posted by smokeyging View Post
    That bitch that is running ACC is apparently on $550,000 from what i understand, and her cronies aren't on much less. put them on $60,000 until ACC starts making a profit, then she can have her $550,000. i’ll bet ACC starts going forward in a hurry then and it should'nt cost a cent.
    Can I have this one?

    ACC IS making a profit.

    They have earned their salaries.

    ACC is the only Government cost centre making money. No one has said that ACC is making a loss. What they've said is that ACC has to be "fully-funded" whihc means it needs to carry the capital to cover its future liability. Which is bollocks because it is a compensation scheme, not an Insurance company.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Robert Taylor View Post
    .. life doesnt begin and end with motorcycling...
    Heresy !

    Burn him !
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    Quote Originally Posted by Goblin View Post
    Exactly! That's why we all need to protest vote at the next general election. Just a big X through the whole voting paper.
    then what will happen?Some group will approach the GG and he will form a govt...thats a really good use of our voting rights.

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    You do all realise that , constitutionally, the Ministers of the Crown do not HAVE to be MPs?

    So even if NOONE got elected, the GG could still appoint a government. (or ask the previous one to carry on)
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    Happened several times , not so long ago.
    Quote Originally Posted by skidmark
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    Quote Originally Posted by Phil Vincent
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    Quote Originally Posted by Robert Taylor View Post
    That is exactly right. Motorcyclists will doubtless feel aggrieved at the ACC hikes and I can in part relate to that but life doesnt begin and end with motorcycling. Looking at the big picture the National Government have a hell of a job on their hands and they are damned if they do and damned if they dont.
    Its going to be an even worse mending job in the UK when David Camerons Conservative party annililates the Labour party in their forthcoming general election
    Warts and all I like John Key, he is a refreshing change from that sour pseudo communist bitch we suffered for 9 long years. I sincerely hope that Ill be dead and gone before this country has to suffer another incompetent Labour led administration.
    well get your affairs in order in no later than 9 years

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    Quote Originally Posted by ready4whatever View Post
    You can get rid of them but who would you replace them with. That Barack Obama dude seems on to it, lets offer him a job here
    I will support that in exchange for american citizenship. With Obama gone, America would be a nice place to live once again.
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    Quote Originally Posted by smokeyging View Post
    That bitch that is running ACC is apparently on $550,000 from what i understand, and her cronies aren't on much less. put them on $60,000 until ACC starts making a profit, then she can have her $550,000. i’ll bet ACC starts going forward in a hurry then and it should'nt cost a cent.
    Why should ACC have to make a profit? It is an Accident Compensation scheme that is there for all NZ citizens/residents. We pay taxes and part of them are used to repay the ACC claims. Then someone realised that it's costing shitloads and money that was to be used for education, hospitals, whatever, was sucked up by ACC. So there is now a part of registration to induce some money earmarked for ACC. Brilliant! Now ACC has an income of it's own!

    OK, so heaps of ACC claims are not traffic related, but they are tricky to get payment for. I mean, a kid on a skateboard who breaks an ankle, or a fisherman who gets the fishinghook in his eye is not gonna pay anything towards ACC. But motorists will have to. They have no choice. So when more money is "needed' let's increase the motorists ACC fees as it is the simple option. Trying to get $$'s out of sport or recreation is not gonna happen.

    Then the other ones who can be charged are employers! Brilliant scheme! First let's tax everyone to keep the government running, then lets tax them some more and make it a specific one. They won't know! Let's add GST, road tax, petrol tax, ACC tax... Hey what about a Tax-tax? We could justify that by saying that as we now have to tax you all so much we need additional income to pay for it all...

    It's all gone stupid! Set a flat tax rate for all. No other taxes! (Gets rid of the overheads!) Then live to the means. If the government can take in $xx billlion in a year, that is all that they can spend! That's how I run a business.

    But I am most probably just a simple guy who has no idea.

    May the bridges I burn light the way.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Conquiztador View Post

    But I am most probably just a simple guy who has no idea.
    ACC IS making money. End of story. It needs no levy increases to "cross-subsidise" motorcyclists. Who, by the way, are the only group that can be cross subsidised because they are the only group of NZers singled out for special treatment by ACC.
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