Make cyclists register their cycles and pay ACC

[The Everlasting]

Yeah i reckon so,they also have accidents,so should therefore also have to pay a fee.

[Tink]

That's a non-issue. You get your kids taken off you if you let a 10 year old ride to school.

My 9 yr old rode her bike, and still does on the pavement... with a helmet... I agree if you ride on the rode, as a sport cyclist you pay a ACC levy when you buy the bike, (INTENTION TO USE THE ROAD)... same with horse riders, rugby players, etc...

Just read this from the new site "Bikers Against ACC"

Motorcyclists are a minority group which are being unfairly targeted

In 2008 there were 1475 motorcycle accidents and 50 deaths, and motorcyclists paid approximately $12.3 million in levies.

In 2008 there were 1170 bicycle accidents and 36 deaths - cyclists paid no ACC levies.

This must be a human rights issue around a minority group, motorcyclists bearing a disproportionate financial penalty.

They just have not done their homework AGAIN, as usual!!!!

[vindy500]

My 9 yr old rode her bike, and still does on the pavement... with a helmet... I agree if you ride on the rode, as a sport cyclist you pay a ACC levy when you buy the bike, (INTENTION TO USE THE ROAD)... same with horse riders, rugby players, etc...

i rode to school from ages 10-17. i fell off a few times but never went hospital or anything. what kind of ACC do people think I should of been paying?

[NighthawkNZ:Me]

The Government could charge them a nominal fee of say $50 per year register their cycles. This would raise ACC revenue, make them abide by the road rules, and even create a little extra work for the post office.

Covered by PAYE ACC

[FJRider]

The government doesn't need your help to come up with more stupid ways to tax us all. We already have enough taxes.

They come up with enough stupid ideas on their own ...

[munster]

Covered by PAYE ACC

If that's the case, then why aren't we all coveed by PAYE ACC levies.

Why single out motorists for onerous levies, when it has already been shown (proved even) on this site, that Pedestrians & cyclists cost more per injury?

At least risky jobs incur higher PAYE ACC levies, i.e forestry workers

Where's the fair & equitable levies for weekend rugby players (non-proffesional), cycists, dirt bikers, mountain bikers etc (the list is endless)

[Tezz]

i rode to school from ages 10-17. i fell off a few times but never went hospital or anything. what kind of ACC do people think I should of been paying?

It doesn't matter whether you went to hospital or not - you were lucky - good on you. But other cyclists get hit by cars and spend months in hospital and collect ACC. If you use the road, you must pay. I ride my motorcycle along Tamaki drive every day and see cyclists taking up the bus lane (so much so the buses don't even use it any more) in packs of 50 riding 5 abreast sometimes. And ironically, there is a cycle lane provided for them on the footpath, but they choose not to use it, they choose the road. Just a week or so ago a car crashed into a group of them and injuring several and killing one. The car was in the wrong, but that's not the point.

[Tink]

i rode to school from ages 10-17. i fell off a few times but never went hospital or anything. what kind of ACC do people think I should of been paying?

NONE.... I am referring to adults.. not kids... kids don't claim ACC (or do they)... I am purely referring to cyclists.. not kids on bikes. I am a working mum, who RODE a bike for exercise... but the other day a woman and man on a blind bend (me on motorbike going opposite way), came around 2 abreast, any car would have killed her on impact from behind... or she would have been serious and on ACC... she was so close to the center line it frightened me.. WEARING A HI-VIZ... I don't think that would have saved her.

[That looks like fun]

Yeh!! thats right we are bad but they are worse
Well thats solved that problem, next please
What about an idea? like .. oh lets say registering a plate to an owner not a vehicle The right to change that plate to whatever vehicle you are driving / riding at that time. One plate, one set of fees
Nah bugger alternative ideas, lets keep pointing the finger at everyone who is worse than us

[Tezz]

Yes, kids are covered by ACC as far as I know. They get free hospital treatment paid for by ACC and they can also get long-term disability payments.

[Tink]

Yes, kids are covered by ACC as far as I know. They get free hospital treatment paid for by ACC and they can also get long-term disability payments.

Oh that I don't understand, they don't pay, they don't work.. or is there something I don't know about ACC... surely its a parental claim to look after a sick child... my sister daughter as been off school the whole of Term 3 with a broken leg... she couldn't claim ACC!!! MMM food for thought.

[NighthawkNZ:Me]

If that's the case, then why aren't we all coveed by PAYE ACC levies.

Why single out motorists for onerous levies, when it has already been shown (proved even) on this site, that Pedestrians & cyclists cost more per injury?

At least risky jobs incur higher PAYE ACC levies, i.e forestry workers

we are suppose to be...

Risky jobs are covered by the Business ACC levies

Yes, kids are covered by ACC as far as I know. They get free hospital treatment paid for by ACC and they can also get long-term disability payments.

Yes kids are fully covered by ACC... usually comes out of parents PAYE ACC...

as I have said all along the fundamental argument has to be that ACC is a "no faults" as soon as the point fingers then it became a blaming gane and AT fault syste.

From the ACC Website

Eligibility for injury cover for everyone in New Zealand

Everyone in New Zealand is eligible for comprehensive injury cover:

• no matter what you’re doing or where you are when you’re injured – driving, playing sport, at home, at work.
  
• no matter how the injury happened, even if you did something yourself to contribute to it.
  
• no matter what age you are or whether you’re working – you might be retired, a child, on a benefit or studying.

[Tink]

Yeh!! thats right we are bad but they are worse
Well thats solved that problem, next please
What about an idea? like .. oh lets say registering a plate to an owner not a vehicle The right to change that plate to whatever vehicle you are driving / riding at that time. One plate, one set of fees
Nah bugger alternative ideas, lets keep pointing the finger at everyone who is worse than us

I don't think we are pointing the finger, more like evening out... I still believe user pays..!!!

[Tezz]

One plate, one set of fees

How would that work? I have a car, a motorbike, and two trailers, so a person with only a car should subsidise me?

New ideas are good, so explain them.

[Tink]

Yes, kids are covered by ACC as far as I know. They get free hospital treatment paid for by ACC and they can also get long-term disability payments.

Just asked her, and she tried, they would only supply a baby sitter for a 12 yr old, and there is no way in hell she was leaving her with a stranger!!!!