Make cyclists register their cycles and pay ACC

[twinkle]

I wonder if the Government has even considered making cyclists register their cycles as a more equitable way of funding ACC. Thousands of cyclists use our roads on a daily basis, and the numbers are increasing rapidly, but they pay nothing. They do, however, cause accidents, get hit by cars and claim ACC, and consistently break road rules without any punishment.

The Government could charge them a nominal fee of say $50 per year to register their cycles. This would raise ACC revenue, make them abide by the road rules, and even create a little extra work for the post office.

I love it how the instinctive answer for a lot of people is MORE bureaucracy I thought that we had enough already?

[McJim]

Oh brilliant - now I'm gonna get pinged twice!

This is the sort of shit that will make me pretend to be a biker to infiltrate those biker groups and then beat bikers up for victimising me as a cyclist - Then I'm gonna infiltrate the car lovers society so I can beat those fuckers up for victimising me as a motorcyclist.

FFS the gubberint are the enemy here.

[NighthawkNZ:Me]

There will never be a fair system unless they drop every levy we pay at present and introduce a levy for being Human.

[twinkle]

When the relative populations of these age groups are considered, cyclists aged 10-14 are the group
with the most risk of hospitalisation, with a rate of 14 per 100,000 head of population each year
(population data from census). Other age groups between five and 55 have rates in the region of 6-8 per
100,000 each year. Above the age of 55 the rate of hospitalisation per 100,000 gradually decreases.

So 10-14 year olds should either be banned from cycling or pay twice as much ACC as the rest of the cyclists.
Damn kids costing the rest of us so much money

[NighthawkNZ:Me]

So 10-14 year olds should either be banned from cycling or pay twice as much ACC as the rest of the cyclists.
Damn kids costing the rest of us so much money

They at least need more education about the dangers than they are getting... and they do get some...

[Tink]

Dislike of cyclists for the week is it ?

To name a few that ride the main roads... I rode a avanti bike!

So in the statistics ... was that a push bike accident ... or a car accident ???

Does not matter if its on the highway.... someone pays !

we talked about it at work around town cyclists no problem that allows for kids etc but if you choose to go on state highway's you should pay a registration fee to do it, they are blimmin shocking on highway not there fault but the speed difference is huge and dangerous!

Speed makes a huge difference naturally, but bikers don't (from looking) ride two abreast, and if they do they are idiots.... cyclists although do... and expect hi-viz to make them visible (not)... I STILL SAY ALL ROAD RULES APPLY TO EVERYONE... if you ride a road bike on a main 100km road you must be able to read and write... and to learn the rules... like all of us.

[MidnightMike]

I wonder if the Government has even considered making cyclists register their cycles as a more equitable way of funding ACC. Thousands of cyclists use our roads on a daily basis, and the numbers are increasing rapidly, but they pay nothing. They do, however, cause accidents, get hit by cars and claim ACC, and consistently break road rules without any punishment.

The Government could charge them a nominal fee of say $50 per year to register their cycles. This would raise ACC revenue, make them abide by the road rules, and even create a little extra work for the post office.

Charging cyclist's was among the most laughable ideas to come out of this whole ACC proposition. How the hell is it supposed to be policed? Where do you draw the bracket between a cyclist having to register their bike or not? Should the guy on his BMX have to register his bike because he popped down to the dairy to grab some milk?, because the guy training for the Triathlon who just rode down the same street does, or what about the guy commuting home from work on the footpath?, or the kid riding home from school?

Fucking rediculous, bikers are just targeting another minority group to take the heat off themselves.

And $50 a year would never 'make' cyclist's abide by the road rules, generally the 'Hit by a car/truck etc' consequence makes things quite clear to anyone who's willing to take it to the road, or atleast with half a brain in their helmet.

Instead of targeting specific road users we should be looking at spreading it throughout all groups that claim ACC, just as Rosie said:

+1 and pointing the finger and blaming other 'dangerous' road users is the kind of thinking that has lead to motorbikes being singled out for massive levy increases.

Others' blaming and finger pointing may have got us into this mess, but I don't think us doing the same to another group is going to get us out of it.

I think it should go a step further and all sports people should pay their way as well. Why should all of us who don't play rugby, go skiing, take part in adventure sports, etc pay for those who do and get injured?

Imagine what would happen to grass roots sport in New Zealand if we starting charging people ACC levies to play it?. Teams would drop off like flies, especially in lower socio-economic groups of the population who decide to get into sport as opposed to other illegal activites because the money isn't there in the first place to entertain themselves with. Whether its those teams created to get people socialising, or working on their fitness/weight its always been a positive thing. If you happen to get injured, well thats life outside of the lounge isn't it?

I drive several cars and I own a bike and I'm self-employed - so I pay more than once anyway. I'd be keen for a more equitable system whereby those INDIVIDUALS who cost ACC more pay more in levies - sort of like a no-claims bonus.

Brilliant idea, 'equitable' is what the Government should be looking at to bring themselves out of the current mess without treading on too many toes.

[Usarka]

Pedestrians get hurt on roads too. Charge every fucken' one.

[FJRider]

Speed makes a huge difference naturally, but bikers don't (from looking) ride two abreast, and if they do they are idiots.... cyclists although do... and expect hi-viz to make them visible (not)... I STILL SAY ALL ROAD RULES APPLY TO EVERYONE... if you ride a road bike on a main 100km road you must be able to read and write... and to learn the rules... like all of us.

Then by my observations of cyclists to date ... there are many cyclists on the road that shouldn't be ...

[nothingflash]

Pedestrians get hurt on roads too. Charge every fucken' one.

Dog runs on road, car swerves, hits other car, one injured. Charge pets too!!

[Tink]

Dog runs on road, car swerves, hits other car, one injured. Charge pets too!!

No charge the owners for letting them out of the gate.... I am although not that cruel having two dogs... whom roam out the gate... but if push comes to shove the human comes first... I pay the consequences of my dogs actions.

There is no true answer... there is one answer... but who knows what that is!!! Not me for sure.

[The Everlasting]

Dog runs on road, car swerves, hits other car, one injured. Charge pets too!!

Haha Yeah let's charge cat's too,and while were at it,birds can cause accidents too....charge the lot.

[Tink]

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Then by my observations of cyclists to date ... there are many cyclists on the road that shouldn't be ...

Pretty much YES

[nothingflash]

No charge the owners for letting them out of the gate.... I am although not that cruel having two dogs... whom roam out the gate... but if push comes to shove the human comes first... I pay the consequences of my dogs actions.

There is no true answer... there is one answer... but who knows what that is!!! Not me for sure.

Was suggested with tongue firmly in cheek...

[Tink]

Haha Yeah let's charge cat's too,and while were at it,birds can cause accidents too....charge the lot.

A friend got hit on a bike by a bird.... swiped him off his bike...and put him in hospital, I have no idea if he claimed ACC, but I do know he took the risk... to ride... but anything that is owned is the owners responsibility.