My facebook comments to JOHN KEY

**Tink** · 27th October 2009, 15:22

Recently a motorbike was in a serious accident caused by a car... all survive I HOPE... all will apply for ACC... A mature male with years of ACC and taxes under his belt... a father/mother to care for their child also having paid taxes & ACC...and possible the person who wasn't looking that may have caused the accident ALSO having paid ... taxes & ACC...

I hope this kind of insurance is made accessible to all insurance companies, and as a choice only, we who choose to insure ourselves should reep the privileges ... BUT just because statistics show us who claims does it not also show us who caused the accident, in turn a claim being made to their insurance company!!!

**rainman** · 27th October 2009, 16:32

Originally Posted by Rocketgal68

I hope this kind of insurance is made accessible to all insurance companies, and as a choice only, we who choose to insure ourselves should reep the privileges ... BUT just because statistics show us who claims does it not also show us who caused the accident, in turn a claim being made to their insurance company!!!

ACC isn't an insurance scheme.

**Tink** · 27th October 2009, 17:45

Originally Posted by rainman

ACC isn't an insurance scheme.

I am not saying it is... but in a certain way it is... yet we are forced by the govt to pay it... I only understand that if you loose your income that the govt steps in with ACC and pays you while you recover etc.

**rainman** · 27th October 2009, 17:57

Originally Posted by Rocketgal68

I am not saying it is... but in a certain way it is... yet we are forced by the govt to pay it... I only understand that if you loose your income that the govt steps in with ACC and pays you while you recover etc.

Eh?

I need to have more to drink before that makes sense!

**Oakie** · 27th October 2009, 19:11

It is insurance in that it provides income protection and medical cover in case of a whoopsie. It differs from normal insurance in that it is not optional and we cannot decide the level of cover we want.

**Starky307** · 27th October 2009, 19:18

ACC is no form of insurance, it is a scheme designed to provide equal treatment of accidents to everyone with a no blame view, this is to remove the ongoing effect of litigation to "prove" fault.

Please never wish for privatizing as it will lead to a system like in the USA, where the only people who benefit are the lawyers.

**NighthawkNZ:Me** · 27th October 2009, 19:22

Its not classed as insurance... it is as its name say and accident Compensation scheme

**Mystic13** · 29th October 2009, 10:20

JK is on facebook. Feel free to let him know what you think and post it here.

I've had my say as a lot of riders have and will continue to pop comments until the date of a decision.

I'm pretty pissed that they can use false statements, and try and stick us in this way. RRRRRRRrrrrRRRRRRRGGGHHHHH!!!!!

What pisses me off more is the dickhead at ACC when it's pointed out the numbers aren't right he blindly defends them and refers to others. The bugger should man up.

**Deano** · 29th October 2009, 10:21

Is it really JK though ?

**Mystic13** · 29th October 2009, 10:23

Yeah I facebook'd the guy with a bunch of you others.

Please comment on his facebook page.

I have more than one bike so I'm going to be really screwed over. Plus like over 99% of motorcyclists I have a car and ACC forgot that.

Bastards.

**Road Guardian** · 29th October 2009, 10:45

Prob not, I suspect it will be a member of his PR team, not the real JK

**Skyryder** · 29th October 2009, 11:12

Originally Posted by rainman

ACC isn't an insurance scheme.

But the problem now is that Nick Smith says it is and to add to the confusion he is now calling the current ACC regime a 'welfare system.'

On this score the ACC was always considered to be 'in step' with the welfare system but now that there is so much hostility to 'welfare' as a whole Smith now denigrates ACC by calling it what it is in the hope that most will accept that ACC will now be an insurance scheme.

It's a classic case of calling something that the public has hostility too in order to get their support, in this case privatisation, so as to make the change more palatable.

This was taken from Smiths website.

"Significant changes are going to be required to secure for New Zealand a financially sustainable 24/7, no-fault accident insurance scheme."

Skyryder