Radar detecter alternatives. Techie input needed

[N4CR]

Mate had a brilliant jammer once that worked off the KA band (or is it K?) and hid under his seat (2 transmitters, one in the headlight, one in the brakelight). Wouldnt tell me where i could get one though.

Yeah... exactly what I was going to say. I have the schematics somewhere and I would be keen to try it (involved an auto door radar transmitter with some tuning etc) but I'm a real noob when it comes to this.

When I get home I will find it.

[Skyryder]

or the road angel system in NZ

What's the road angel system??

Skyryder

[TwoSeven]

A military grade scanner (or 3 of them to be precise) is what you need. They are cheap (good ones go for about us$500) and you can attach a pda or laptop to some brands. I think there are rules on what you can import here tho so you may be out of luck on that.

What they do is monitor a wider array of frequencies and bands at the same time (since most military comms use frequency hopping), and the old bill tend to use a fixed number of channels so its pretty easy.

What you need to do is triangulate on signal strength (aka. cell phone triangulation as an example) when a signal is broadcast. You then need to plot that in real time on some form of map (so you'll need to go visit navman for one of their gps map hoodackies).

You could fix two of the scanners in place (perhaps about 5km apart) and use the third on the bike. Cell phones with gprs would enable you to broadcase the signal data to your unit where you'd do the processing.

Now the upgrade for that basic hack would be to make a radio direction finder (ie. what they use to track kiwi and other animals with radio transmitters). So you could mount a directional aerial (like a uhf aerial) on your motorcycle, since you would only need to detect signals coming from the general direction in front of you. How wide that aerial would need to be on your bike would govern what kind of signal and how strong it is you could detect.



I would also suggest painting your bike black (a stealth color) and purchasing some Multi-spectral camouflage paint (go visit SSG-AG in germany). Modify your fairing so that it uses reflective angles - that way when you get pinged, no signal will be returned to the transmitter.

You want to get your front RCS (radar cross section) down to 1mm which would put it beyond all radar systems currently in NZ to detect. The multispectral paint would kill the lazer based pingers.

Just my thoughts

[loosebruce]

Alternative to all techy gadgets - 6th gear!! Fifth on some bikes. Not that i ever would dream of doing such a thing.

I have a scanner that i use regulary, sits in my backpack with an earphone into my helmet, but you've got almost 35 - 40 frequnices (sp) in auckalnd alone to scan, plus not being able to see what freq you're on at the time while scanning to determine what area it's coming from can be a bugger, sometimes i lock onto central to be safe, but as marty said most of the cops that i "might" have an issue with is the HP and they use the raido sweet f/a, think they have some sort of computer that works like txt or they use their cells mostly.
Really a scanner is only good finding out where shit is going on and where the police are likly to be because of it. Also provides a good laugh every now and then.

I don't have a radar detector, never have, got a speeding ticket here and there but it's mostly best to errr on the side of caution, when you ride heaps you get to know where the police set up camp on motorways (ie on ramps, certain spots on the side of the road, under bridges, on bridges) and roads they police often, how many of you pin it down the ramarama straight? Bit foolish if you do.

Just don't bitch when you pinged for speeding, doesn't matter if there were no other cars around etc etc and all the other bullshit excuses people use, if you going to speed, accept the punishment.

[John]

On that reflection type thingy, get some shiny shiny plastic type stuff (forgot name) and put it over the licence plate, will save you tickets from flashers.

(due to reflection delay etc, so all they see is a white feedback produced by the flash, no matter what - and it is still fine for anyone following directly behind you such as the police and such)

No I dont do this

[Wonko]

They would have to talk, and normal chatter is work related, ie they have pulled someone and are checking details, or are responding to a callout. therefore your chances of being picked up would be less anyway as they have other business.

Now if all Police vehicles had a GPS system so that HQ would know exactly where they all where, and for ease of deployment etc, and you could tap into that, when then I'd be interested in that system

[loosebruce]

On that reflection type thingy, get some shiny shiny plastic type stuff (forgot name) and put it over the licence plate, will save you tickets from flashers.

You could just do what i did to my number plate those that have seen will know what i'm talking bout

[John]

You could just do what i did to my number plate those that have seen will know what i'm talking bout

Nah I dont have a number plate they are for chumps

edit: oh the mysteriously mutated number plate now thats an idea, can even explain to the cobbler about how you wrote the bike off at 200kmph doing a wheelie on public roads

[loosebruce]

Nah I dont have a number plate they are for chumps

edit: oh the mysteriously mutated number plate now thats an idea, can even explain to the cobbler about how you wrote the bike off at 200kmph doing a wheelie on public roads

Oi she's not written off, running perfectly it is. eh honest.

[John]

Oi she's not written off, running perfectly it is. eh honest.

Nah, just makes for a much more interesting story

[madboy]

I vote for the LB 6th Gear theory.

Scanners are all good for listening what they're up to WHILE you're being chased, and radar detectors may or may not help you avoid the chase in the first place but there's a fair bit of luck involved in that... and I run a Valentine One and have owned many Unidens and Bels over the years.

Personally, I think the best approach is run an easily removable/relocatible numberplate (I know I've been talking about it for ages, but one day I WILL give around to tilting mine), and every time you see trouble just go down two gears and wait... sometimes you'll be glad to got the revs up ready for a fast launch, sometimes the 5-0 watching will know better. Either way - you are unlikely to get a ticket.

[marty]

They would have to talk, and normal chatter is work related, ie they have pulled someone and are checking details, or are responding to a callout. therefore your chances of being picked up would be less anyway as they have other business.

Now if all Police vehicles had a GPS system so that HQ would know exactly where they all where, and for ease of deployment etc, and you could tap into that, when then I'd be interested in that system

actually, if the driver has his licence, the car is regd and wofd, and it is a simple stop, there is no need to talk on the radio. there's plenty of ghost HP units out there, start and finish at their home address, go into the base once a week, some of them don't even log on with comms until they need something over the radio. in fact, it's the ghost ones that are often the big ticket writers - just out there doing their job, without becoming involved in the politics of it all. saw one of them twice in the weekend, once on SH1 at Te Kauwhta, then again on 1B, both times he had someone stopped. he easily does 40 stops a day - one every 10 minutes or so.

[Wonko]

edit: oh the mysteriously mutated number plate now thats an idea, can even explain to the cobbler about how you wrote the bike off at 200kmph doing a wheelie on public roads

The front plate on my cage has an almost 80 degree bend in the middle of it, and is bent slightly down. Has saved me from at least 3 camera tickets over the years. Strange thing is that this year for the first time in 5 years the WOF mentioned it. Under other items it says "Dent in front bumper" Like I had never noticed it

[Biff]

A bloke down the pub told me that many of the nations police coughiffers may or may not be slowly migrating over to a new radio system soon. A digital one. This 'guy' told me that the system may or be transmitting AVLS (advanced vehicle loaction system, similar to GPS) information, information that is sent by the police vehicle, over the radio system to their respective HQs informing the dispatcher where, within 10 metres, each vehicle is.

Now imagine that you had access to an AVLS/radio decoder..........if only I could remember the 'blokes' name.

[Gremlin]

Lotsa "hypothetical" threads about tech needed if you were "hypothetically" speeding. Lemme get this straight...

- you need a scanner to see if cops are around/what they are saying
- you need a radar jammer to stop err... radar!
- you need a laser jammer to stop laser

how much space is there on a bike?? Soon you might need a sidecar for the tech...