Here's a thought

[NighthawkNZ:Me]

Where did the 400,000 come from? I thought there were 98,000 registered bikes - and some people will own more than one.

480,000 motorcycle license holders

[Bounce001]

November five seems a good time.



I think I'll go buy some Greggs Jelly.


Skyryder

Can we re-enact Guy Fawkes? Pleeeease..........

[McJim]

480,000 motorcycle license holders

However many of those licence holders are not 100% bikie. some of them will feel as disafected as me by having my other hobbies and past-times held up as sacrificial lambs by the very very small minority of motorcyclists for whom motorcycles are the be all and end all.

The polititians are better aware of this than you and will be laughing at your ability to whittle the potential support of 480,000 m/cycle licence holders down to 100,000 when you attack parents. Down to 70,000 when you attack rugby players, 50,000 when you attack kick-boxers, 30,000 when you exclude skiers and snowboarders, 10,000 when you have a go at cyclists and so on.

The policies that we develop to deal with this inequity should not themselves be as punitive and unfair as the proposal we are supposedly fighting.

I have already lost the taste for this campaign thanks to your comments and I'm sure I am not the only one.

I'll pay my $250 extra per year or just sell the bike.

[Ender EnZed]

And not all of those licence holders have bikes or anything to do with them. Not everyone got born again.

The Greens seem to be most significant force we have on our side on this issue. No one needs to catch anything particularly green for BRONZ to work with them for a far more effective effort than we'll get if bikers are only defending their money and Greens are only defending ACC from privatisation.