Data from ACC

[bogan]

So Ixion, now that the BIKOI is done, where are you at...

somewhere between welli and taupo would be my guess!

Specifically, I'm still hearing the $77 bandied about, has there been any explanation in the obvious problem with that number which you first pointed out on CloseUp?

Every time I hear somebody say "but $77" I want to go ahead and point out the obvious flaw, but worried that there has been some miraculous revelation from ACC as to how the number works...

the $77 figure is calculated from thier "true cost" of motorcycles, which in turn is based on a small sample which clearly does not reflect the whole. $77 for each of the 2.5mil (i think) car drivers comes to around 200mil which is more than what acc themselves say is required for the bike compensation.

[GOONR]

I'm confused.. (It doesn't take much)

Quoting from the harold.....

"He says there has also been a huge rise in motorbike accident claims; from 871 in 1998 to 5,044 last year."

But yet on the ACC stats site 2007-07/2008-06 claims = 1,337..

That's a big difference in numbers.

[sleemanj]

It's so frustrating that the poli's are spouting out these largely silly and incorrect numbers and there doesn't seem to be a SINGLE journalist out there who is remotely interested in actually digging a little, doing some basic fact checking, and asking some serious questions.

When did NZ journalism become such a spoonfed establishment, I'm sure it wasn't always like this.

[Mikkel]

In regards to the $77 levy subsidy from car drivers. It is important to clearly distinguish whether it's $77 per car registration ($177M) or $77 per motorcycle registration($4M).

The clarity of the information in this entire case must be considered a cause for great concern.

[Subike]

[/SIZE]I have heard this several times.
"where is the jounalist who will do the digging and get the real story"
and the common answer is that there is not one in NZ that will do it.
Maybe we need to employ an investgative jounalist ourselves.
An independant one who is known to the media.
We are all saying the truth should come out,
so why do we as a group pay for an investigative jornalist ?
If 5000+ bikers can turn up in wellington at their own cost.
surley if those same bikers gave $10 each to fund a jounalist
International jounalists would be fighting for a possibile $50.000 payout.
so why , for the price of a jug each, dont we do it?
Put an add on the internet for one.
Im sure the position will be filled quickly.
With the facts such a person would dig up, we could have real evidence either way to the truth of this matter from an independant person with media respectability.

[bogan]

In regards to the $77 levy subsidy from car drivers. It is important to clearly distinguish whether it's $77 per car registration ($177M) or $77 per motorcycle registration($4M).

The clarity of the information in this entire case must be considered a cause for great concern.

In the fact sheet showing some working on how they got this number, it is $77 per CAR (or other private passenger vehicle) registration.