Hi-vis vests?

[jamiey]

Just wondering if anyone knows where to buy good quality ones. (N Shore or Aucks).

Ok I know - don't rip me for been a pussy, just i do heaps of communtering at ridiculous late hours due to shift work and feel a bit more 'seen' with one on when paasing drink drivers, sleepy people etc etc etc at that time.

[Kiwi Graham:Me]

Gday mate,
I got mine from a saftey and work wear shop in Rotavagas. Check the yellow pages for a saftey shop on the norf shore.

[The Pastor]

there are a few safety shops on archers road in glenfield.

Be preared to pay from $20-50-100

[p.dath]

Go to NZ Safety.

They are in Albany and Glenfield.

Also a good place to get ear plugs.

http://www.nzsafety.co.nz/servlet/Sr...P1=contact.htm

[Highlander]

Got one from Kathmandu ($7) but it has velcro holding it closed until the air speed gets up and it tends to start flapping.

Had one from the Honda Riders Club ($15) which has a zip - much better.

ACC give them away sometimes too (I kid you not, included in your ACC Levies. )

I work on the theory it only has to make one person see me who otherwise wouldn't have, and it has paid for itself in imeasurable multiples.

[p.dath]

ACC give them away sometimes too (I kid you not, included in your ACC Levies. )

I got one of the free ACC ones from the AMCC. It lasted maybe three months of regular use. The zip fell apart, and the fabric was very light (as in, would be easy to wear a hole through it).

So I haven't worn it for a while. And in the current climate of distrust, I don't think I would want to wear it. Not that I don't appreciate ACC making some effort - I just have a physiological issue with them that makes me not want to take their hand outs.

[Highlander]

I got one of the free ACC ones from the AMCC. It lasted maybe three months of regular use. The zip fell apart, and the fabric was very light (as in, would be easy to wear a hole through it).

So I haven't worn it for a while. And in the current climate of distrust, I don't think I would want to wear it. Not that I don't appreciate ACC making some effort - I just have a physiological issue with them that makes me not want to take their hand outs.

Guess you get what you PAY for then?

[I GS 1]

Just wondering if anyone knows where to buy good quality ones. (N Shore or Aucks).

Ok I know - don't rip me for been a pussy, just i do heaps of communtering at ridiculous late hours due to shift work and feel a bit more 'seen' with one on when paasing drink drivers, sleepy people etc etc etc at that time.

Oxford (the company who make a lot of motorcycle accessories) do a nice one. Seventy or eighty bucks but a decent zip and designed not to flap in the wind.

[p.dath]

Why don't you pop along to Cycletreads on Barrys Point Rd. I'm sure they would have something as well.

[Squiggles]

I've got quite a few of the "look out for motorbikes" ones left...

[Hitcher]

Be warned that hi-vis vests are dangerous. They are dangerous because people who wear them think that they help to make themselves more conspicuous to other road users, a dangerous assumption. You should ride on the basis that other road users haven't seen you and, if they have, that they want to kill you. A hi-vis vest adds no value to that proposition.

[Horse]

They are dangerous because people who wear them think that they help to make themselves more conspicuous to other road users.

As I've asked before, your evidence for this rather alarming statement is?

[Jantar]

Be warned that hi-vis vests are dangerous. They are dangerous because people who wear them think that they help to make themselves more conspicuous to other road users, a dangerous assumption. You should ride on the basis that other road users haven't seen you and, if they have, that they want to kill you. A hi-vis vest adds no value to that proposition.

As I've asked before, your evidence for this rather alarming statement is?

Have a look back through the thread history on kiwibiker, and you'll see hundreds of references to something called target fixation. Wearing a Hi Vis vest may certainly make you easier to see, but in the process just makes you more of a target.

A few years ago there was some research carried out in brittain (can't find the link anymore) that showed full black was the safest colour for motorcyclists, as it was the hardest colour for motorists to identify, and therefore the brain perceived the black blob as a threat.

The next safest was any single colour as it could also be perceived as threat, but was more likely just easier to identify.

Getting more dangerous was Hi Vis as this provided a target for the motorist to aim for.

Most dangerous was multi coloured as that tended to act as camoflage and just made the rider invisible.

[LBD]

Have a look back through the thread history on kiwibiker, and you'll see hundreds of references to something called target fixation. Wearing a Hi Vis vest may certainly make you easier to see, but in the process just makes you more of a target.

A few years ago there was some research carried out in brittain (can't find the link anymore) that showed full black was the safest colour for motorcyclists, as it was the hardest colour for motorists to identify, and therefore the brain perceived the black blob as a threat.

The next safest was any single colour as it could also be perceived as threat, but was more likely just easier to identify.

Getting more dangerous was Hi Vis as this provided a target for the motorist to aim for.

Most dangerous was multi coloured as that tended to act as camoflage and just made the rider invisible.

So you saying its a bit like a light green fire engine being easier to spot in the bush than a red one.....(It is apparently)

[Jantar]

I guess the same reasoning could apply. I hadn't actually thought about that one.