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    35 years of battle in the UK take a look

    Hi All
    This is a youtube promo for the Motorcycle Action Group UK MAG.
    As you can see we have had the crap your starting to get from both the British and European parliaments for 35 years.

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZnwnmJbC3PM

    Best of luck to you lot and remember Freedom aint Free !!

    Fight for your rights

    Ride free.

    Pete

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    Quote Originally Posted by Motorhead View Post
    Hi All
    This is a youtube promo for the Motorcycle Action Group UK MAG.
    As you can see we have had the crap your starting to get from both the British and European parliaments for 35 years.

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZnwnmJbC3PM

    Best of luck to you lot and remember Freedom aint Free !!

    Fight for your rights

    Ride free.

    Pete
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    We got one of those.

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    Quote Originally Posted by sinfull View Post
    What would lemmy do ?
    Lemmy would say you win some you lose some its all the same to me,

    But for god sake don't take that attitude.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Motorhead View Post
    Hi All
    This is a youtube promo for the Motorcycle Action Group UK MAG.
    As you can see we have had the crap your starting to get from both the British and European parliaments for 35 years.

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZnwnmJbC3PM

    Best of luck to you lot and remember Freedom aint Free !!

    Fight for your rights

    Ride free.

    Pete
    Enjoyed the video very much.

    Clearly those guys are well organised and know how to get heard.

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    Thanks for the video Motorhead.

    Thoughts that occurred to me after viewing - this is what NZ needs, a well organised national organisation (no, BRONZ isn't - see Ixion's comments regarding trying to organise a national BRONZ meeting elsewhere) to continually lobby for motorcyclists rights.

    Good, catchy name too - I think BRONZ is badly named, the very term 'bikers' conjures up a negative image in the minds of many of the general public, it's way too easily confused with 'bikies'. Having thought about this, I think that negative image is probably one of the main reasons I never joined BRONZ previously (prior to the current ACC issue).
    Even the Aussies have enough sense to realise the negative image associated with the term 'bikers' as they sensibly have named their group 'Motorcycle Riders Association of Australia' http://www.mraa.org.au/.

    How hard would it be to set up a NZ branch of MAG and who would be interested? Would BRONZ consider changing their structure & organisation to become a true national body, and would they consider a name change to MAG , MRANZ or MAGNZ etc? Linking with a strong UK/Europe/Australian based group would present many benefits. (If BRONZ aren't already...how would you know?)
    In this ever increasingly PC world we live in, I have no doubt that a well organised national lobby group like this will be needed in NZ in the future.

    Just some random thoughts, would be interested to hear others views on this......

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    Quote Originally Posted by cs363 View Post

    How hard would it be to set up a NZ branch of MAG and who would be interested? Would BRONZ consider changing their structure & organisation to become a true national body, and would they consider a name change to MAG , MRANZ or MAGNZ etc?
    The worst aspect of the BRONZ brand is the word "Rights".

    No one has rights.
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    Quote Originally Posted by James Deuce View Post
    The worst aspect of the BRONZ brand is the word "Rights".

    No one has rights.
    An equally good point, as always Mr Deuce.

    There's quite a lot in a name isn't there?

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    You would think that Manufacturers would lobby too...after all it's their sales that could be affected and they Govt gets much needed revenue from bike sales...GST..Import Duty...income tax etc

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    Quote Originally Posted by James Deuce View Post
    The worst aspect of the BRONZ brand is the word "Rights".

    No one has rights.
    Mmmmm...we do....NZ has signed up to Human Rights...we all have rights...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Grahameeboy View Post
    Mmmmm...we do....NZ has signed up to Human Rights...we all have rights...
    You're kidding me right?

    They went and legislated so that Article 13 of the UN Human Rights Declaration didn't apply in NZ.

    Yeah we have rights. Yeah rights.
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    Quote Originally Posted by James Deuce View Post
    You're kidding me right?

    They went and legislated so that Article 13 of the UN Human Rights Declaration didn't apply in NZ.

    Yeah we have rights. Yeah rights.
    Mmmm...I don't think NZ can actually change this Act in the real world...it's a World wide thing....could easily be challenged...which means that NZ does not agree with the Act for starters....

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    Quote Originally Posted by James Deuce View Post
    You're kidding me right?

    They went and legislated so that Article 13 of the UN Human Rights Declaration didn't apply in NZ.

    Yeah we have rights. Yeah rights.
    The New Zealand Bill of Rights Act 1990 (BoRA) does not address the right to equality and only indirectly affirms it by reference to New Zealand’s commitment to the ICCPR.

    So we do have rights....

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    Quote Originally Posted by Grahameeboy View Post
    Mmmm...I don't think NZ can actually change this Act in the real world...it's a World wide thing....could easily be challenged...which means that NZ does not agree with the Act for starters....
    NZ politicians wrote legislation that specifically circumvents Article 13 of the UN Declaration of Human Rights. Of course they can;t change the UN Declaration, but they can write legislation in their own country that specifically contravenes the Declaration.

    UN declarations should be perforated and distributed on cardboard tubes.

    Anyone who lives in a country that uses the Westminster Parliamentary system needs to understand that individual rights are not core to the constitution, and that the needs of the state always superceded those of the individual The Magna Carta was a waste of time.
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