Injustice.. help?

[p.dath]

I always turn a police stop into a episode of CSI, keep the copper answering questions(make them serious questions, dont take the piss), and camera out taking snaps of the road from all angles, notepad out taking down all answers(copper will think this strange).Would have been best for you to do this with both cops, and drawn a picture to show what a fuck up it is.

I suspect if you act "weird" like this you might be subjected to the new drug test provisions.

[jaykay]

As the Police have not bothered to correct their Reminder Notices, the recommended course of action is as follows:
Wait for the Reminder Notice. Date a letter 4 days before the due date of the Reminder, and put it in the post the evening of the day before the due date.

Write something like "Without a copy of the original infringement notice to fully identify the alleged offence; A hearing is requested"

Two things will then happen.

1. A letter from the Police saying you were too late to ask for a hearing
2. A Notice of Fine (and a final Notice of Fine)

When (and if) this is ever chased up you will need to fill in a Form 57 at the court saying you asked for a hearing - at which stage you will get sent another Reminder Notice............etc etc

The unknow factor at present is how long before it's chased up. The record as of today is a friend of mine who got stopped on Waitangi Day 2007, another friend has two outstanding, two years and 18 months. My only one is just coming up to a year.

Write down exactly what happened, take measurements, take photographs - in the unlikely event the Police try and prosecute you can have some fun.

[FstRyd]

jaykay's advice seems a goer. I know the current Police Speed Policy has the 250m grace period removed (the old policy in the link on page 1 expired in February 2009). The 10km/h speed tolerance has also been removed. Patrick should be able to confirm that.

[caseye]

Without giving away state secrets can you tell us how you know this?

[FstRyd]

I know a cop on a highway patrol unit. Apparently people were fighting tickets based on either the 10k tolerance, or the 250m grace period, so the Police took them right out of policy.

The Police policies aren't confidential, as evidenced by the fact the speed policy (although not updated) is on the website.

[caseye]

Cheers for that.

[scumdog]

I know a cop on a highway patrol unit. Apparently people were fighting tickets based on either the 10k tolerance, or the 250m grace period, so the Police took them right out of policy.

The Police policies aren't confidential, as evidenced by the fact the speed policy (although not updated) is on the website.

Yup, you cut a little slack and people moan:

Cos they think it's law that it's ok to speed 250 metres before entering a higher speed-change sign.

And think 118kph is 'only 8 kay over the limit man, c'mon, a ticket for 8 kay over the limit?'

SO to stop these niggles from misguided twats it's easier to just not bother with these tolerance/grace thingies...

That way everybody is happy...

[Patrick]

jaykay's advice seems a goer. I know the current Police Speed Policy has the 250m grace period removed (the old policy in the link on page 1 expired in February 2009). The 10km/h speed tolerance has also been removed. Patrick should be able to confirm that.

News to me....

Speed tolerance around schools is only 5kmph over, that's the only change I heard about.

But Scummy sums it up well. Give an inch (or 10kmph tolerance/250 metres) and still they moan.

Might get like some States in the U.S. - 1mph over the limit and your done for. (Make that 1kmph for us metric users....).

[swbarnett]

Might get like some States in the U.S. - 1mph over the limit and your done for. (Make that 1kmph for us metric users....).

The problem with this is that it's economically and damn near physically impossible for the average speedo to measure speed this accurately. Some tolerance is necessary - not to say "it's OK to spped a little" but to acknowledge the fact the driver may, in all good faith, believe that they're right on the limit when in fact they're slightly over. 10% appropriate fair to me.

In Switzerland it's acknowledged on the ticket - in a 50kph area 5kph is deducted from the recorded speed before any punishment is calculated.

[MSTRS:Me]

...B]It goes to trial you should get a Magistrate not a bloody silly wet behind the ears JP [/B]...

It's a traffic offence, not a capital crime. JP is what to expect...

[DemonWolf]

News to me....

Speed tolerance around schools is only 5kmph over, that's the only change I heard about.

But Scummy sums it up well. Give an inch (or 10kmph tolerance/250 metres) and still they moan.

Might get like some States in the U.S. - 1mph over the limit and your done for. (Make that 1kmph for us metric users....).

or approximately 1.609344kmph

[kwaka_crasher]

or approximately 1.609344kmph

Except that 1kmph is 0.621371mph...

[discotex]

Thanks for your advice everyone. It really helped...

I've just faxed off my response so will see what happens.

[discotex]

Quick update....

Have heard back from the Police. Apparently if I disagree with their version of events it has to be at a hearing.

They've sent me a copy of the notes that have some interesting "facts" (read lies and ommisions of the truth).

I'll now take it to court and get the whole thing dropped if I can. What a fucking waste of time and taxpayers money.

[kwaka_crasher]

They've sent me a copy of the notes that have some interesting "facts" (read lies and ommisions of the truth).

Never saw that coming...