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    I've finally got my head around it

    The following is a letter I intend to send to every media, politician, interest group, etc, I can think of.

    Any of you who wish to copy and send it to whomsoever, feel free.

    We motorists are being ripped, raped, and rooted by a cynical system which has one ace in its armoury.

    The bastards can identify us.

    Registered Road-Users Are Being Ripped Off


    Dear Sir,

    I am writing the clarify some issues regarding the proposed ACC levies on all registered road-users.

    The Minister, Nick Smith asserts that all registered road-users, other than motorcyclists are subsidising motorcyclists.

    We know that statistics can be twisted and pulled to suit any argument. Smith is relying upon the following data to support his contention.

    Car Occupants:
    - 8525 active claims
    - $208,305,000
    - $24,434 per claim

    Motorcyclists:
    - 3173 active claims
    - $62,523,000
    - $19,704 per claim

    The foregoing comes directly from ACC’s own statistics.

    Smith, very artfully, is using the number of claims related to the number of registered users (of type) to support his position. Ergo 8525 claims from 1.6 million registered private cars, as opposed to 3173 claims from amongst 128,000 registered motorcycles.

    Using these data Smith can clearly assert car drivers are subsidising motorcyclists.

    However, as with all politicians wishing to con the public, Smith has artfully ‘forgotten?’ to mention that 89.9% of motorcyclists also own a car, which they register and pay the ACC subsidy.

    However, buying into this petty argument is not the thrust of this dissertation.

    The thrust here is founded on one simple principle. Sir Owen Woodford designed ACC as a no-fault insurance. Today, 99.8% of all claimants still benefit from that part of the original plan. However, 0.2% of all claimants otherwise known as registered road-users, do not.

    All registered road-users are forced to pay an extra levy which of itself presumes some level of fault.

    Registered road-users, including cars, trucks, motorcycles, taxis, ambulances, cop-cars, buses, etc, in total claimed just under $480 million dollars during the 2008/2009 year.

    Now measure that claim-sum against the total sum of claims ($24 billion). It follows that all road-user claims amount to less than one fifth of one percent of the total annual claim.

    Yet all registered road-users are required to pay and extra –fault-targeted levy.

    It follows that, using Smith’s criteria, all registered road users are subsidising all the rest. In other words, 0.2% of ACC payers, are subsidising the other 99.8%.

    Yet all registered road-users are ‘also’ a part of the 99.8% whom they subsidise because they pay, like everyone else, an ACC levy via their income.

    Smith argues that ACC levies for all tax-payers will have to rise. So? That doesn’t lessen the fact that most of those tax-payers are motorists and thus are burdened with an extra levy.

    Why are motorists of any sort burden with an extra levy?

    The answer is as simple as it is cynical. There are no cops or council staff out there checking to see if the player of sport, the home handyman, the lunatic lawn-mower, the crazy mountain climber, or the erratic employee has paid up his/her ACC levy by way of registration.

    Motorists, of all types have been an easy target because the law enforcers can identify them, specifically. Moreover, they have been granted almost draconian laws to enforce the will of ACC.

    That is the only reason the governments (all of them) have been happy to levy motorists because motorists are the only group over which the law-enforcers have meaningful and specific power.

    Therefore, the current ACC levy on motorists is utterly undemocratic, it is cynical, it flies in the face of the ‘no-fault’ concept of ACC, and if forces 0.2% (all registered motorists) of the population to subsidise the other 99.8%.

    The current ACC levies against a target-group (motorists) is nothing more than an outrage. The proposed increases mark this new government as fascists in the extreme.

    Yours faithfully
    David Peppiatt.
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    Will it get far though? If it is worded in an offensive manner you will alienate the reader and probably go in the bin. I like to appeal to their pockets.

    http://www.kiwibiker.co.nz/forums/sh...post1129485578

    Or for the polititians look at their voters:

    480,000 motorcycle licence holders in New Zealand. 75% are over 40 years of age. They are professional, experienced, influential and credible. The majority of them were National voters.....until now.
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    Quote Originally Posted by McJim View Post
    Will it get far though? If it is worded in an offensive manner you will alienate the reader and probably go in the bin. I like to appeal to their pockets.

    http://www.kiwibiker.co.nz/forums/sh...post1129485578

    Or for the polititians look at their voters:

    480,000 motorcycle licence holders in New Zealand. 75% are over 40 years of age. They are professional, experienced, influential and credible. The majority of them werew National voters.....until now.
    Good point. I will change it to suit.
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    Quote Originally Posted by McJim View Post
    Or for the polititians look at their voters:

    480,000 motorcycle licence holders in New Zealand. 75% are over 40 years of age. They are professional, experienced, influential and credible. The majority of them were National voters.....until now.
    Now that's a good one Jim, we might not agree often mate but that there, pure fuckin gold man, kudos


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    Quote Originally Posted by StoneY View Post
    Now that's a good one Jim, we might not agree often mate but that there, pure fuckin gold man, kudos


    thats one for the meeting with the man himself on the 17th ( what's his electorate majority - biker votes = political wilderness )

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    Good stuff in general - if the figures are indeed correct. A reference or two would only add credibility. Also, as Jim said, taking the teeth out of the wording would be beneficial in regards to getting heard.

    However, this bit:

    Quote Originally Posted by dpex View Post
    Therefore, the current ACC levy on motorists is utterly undemocratic, it is cynical, it flies in the face of the ‘no-fault’ concept of ACC, and if forces 0.2% (all registered motorists) of the population to subsidise the other 99.8%.
    ...is incorrect. Surely all registered motorists constitute more than 0.2% of the population! Indeed, 0.2% of the cost of all claims (and that seems very low, and again, a reference would be excellent) might be associated with traffic related injuries - but that is hardly the same thing.

    Also, the ACC levy on motor vehicle are not there to reflect "fault" but to reflect "risk". The real issue is that they decide to, based on questionable statistics, penalise the victims - i.e. those who suffers the injury - without consideration as to the perpetrator - i.e. who causes the injury.
    It is preferential to refrain from the utilisation of grandiose verbiage in the circumstance that your intellectualisation can be expressed using comparatively simplistic lexicological entities. (...such as the word fuck.)

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mikkel View Post


    ...is incorrect. Surely all registered motorists constitute more than 0.2% of the population! Indeed, 0.2% of the cost of all claims (and that seems very low, and again, a reference would be excellent) might be associated with traffic related injuries - but that is hardly the same thing.

    Also, the ACC levy on motor vehicle are not there to reflect "fault" but to reflect "risk". The real issue is that they decide to, based on questionable statistics, penalise the victims - i.e. those who suffers the injury - without consideration as to the perpetrator - i.e. who causes the injury.

    I seen this same stat elsewhere, less than 2% of the ACC claims are road related, many coming from area's where there is no specific levy (many not all)

    I am pretty sure he means Road Users are subsidizing 99.8% of the ACC claims. There is another thread somehwre states that too and has the statistic report backing it up

    Good thread Jim and all who contributed, food for thought
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