Does speed really kill?

**SPman** · 9th November 2009, 16:13

Originally Posted by Mikkel

Well, considering the "guilty until proven innocent" attitude supplemented with no real requirement in regards to an actual burden of evidence

..which is now spilling over into general law making..........

**scumdog** · 9th November 2009, 16:25

Originally Posted by Mikkel

Add then the, alleged, company policy of not being allowed to exercise discretion.

Not here, I use discretion any time I feel like it.

Who's gonna know otherwise?

**ntst8** · 9th November 2009, 18:43

Originally Posted by gatch

Except of course for that 1 time I might have gone over 100kmh at manfield, I exploded into a ball of flame and died.

We were discussing this very fact at the weekend, raise the speed limit and everyone who makes the most of their new found freedom will instantly die at 106km/hr and then ACC's problems will all be gone.
Of course i only ever get up to 105km/hr eventually so i will live forever.

**Fluffy Cat** · 9th November 2009, 18:57

Speed Kills... Do not read this I am dead...he he.
Early 90's my old ZX10 maxed out autobahn and I am dead, obviously because i was going at speed. I think last year was the lowest toll on the autobahn. Then again the roads are good but so are the drivers on the whole. I get the feeling that speed is a factor in many NZ crashes but it seems that the process is caused/started by poor judgement. Our open road limit does seem to be low.

**scumdog** · 9th November 2009, 20:18

Originally Posted by Fluffy Cat

. Our open road limit does seem to be low.

Sure it does - to YOU. (And quite a few others)

But you have to remember you are sharing those roads with people who are out of their depth at 100kph let alone any faster.

**Fluffy Cat** · 9th November 2009, 20:35

Bah you is right scumdog.... but that means we have to lower it.

**Dean** · 9th November 2009, 22:14

When I topped my mighty yamma out it didnt feel to bad in the sense of maneouverability, felt like I had reasonable controll. If anything were to pop up sure I couldnt break in time but swerve or change path.

**Dave Lobster** · 10th November 2009, 04:33

Originally Posted by scumdog

But you have to remember you are sharing those roads with people who are out of their depth at 100kph let alone any faster.

Handily, we have a capable police force to get these people off the road.

If someone isn't capable of driving at a mere 100km/h (or 62mph, if they're scared of big numbers), they should not be on the road at all. It isn't fast.

Why should we put up with the incompetant drivers? They're a menace.

**SPman** · 10th November 2009, 14:33

Originally Posted by Fluffy Cat

Bah you is right scumdog.... but that means we have to lower it.

Why? If they aren't capable at speeds at least up to the legal limit, they shouldn't be on the road. Get a bus!
Why continually dumb down the requirements for everything in life, including driving. Set a standard and, if you can't reach it, you don't get a license!
Fuckem!

**avgas** · 10th November 2009, 14:41

The faster you go - the dumber the mess.
Fact of the matter is that vehicles on the road are like washing machines.
Some go fast, some go slow.
Some are expensive, some are not.
However a stupid washing machines will always piss you off, will always break stuff, and will always have someone say "Oh it not the machines fault".
The fast stupid washing machines will do all of the above quicker, with a bigger mess and more broken parts.

So no speed doesn't kill - but it certainly helps the stupid (and non-stupid) die easier. FACT

**centaurus** · 10th November 2009, 15:22

We live in the age of political correctness. In the 1300's AD (for example) if you spoke against god you were labelled as herretic and killed.

Things haven't changed much since middle ages on this subject. Religion was the 1300's political correctness, nowadays it's "speed kills", "we need to be green and because of that cars are the devil" and a few others...

It didn't help Copernicus and others before him that they were right. He was against the "politicaly correct" opinion of his age that Earth was at the center of the Universe.

The fact of the matter is that speed by itself has little to do with death and in some cases a higher speed can even prevent a crash. But because it's politically incorrect so say something like this, all governments will laugh at your arguments, call them circumstantial and based on incomplete data and will keep going on their "speed kills" track, no matter what you say.

**scumdog** · 10th November 2009, 18:34

Originally Posted by SPman

Why? If they aren't capable at speeds at least up to the legal limit, they shouldn't be on the road. Get a bus!
Why continually dumb down the requirements for everything in life, including driving. Set a standard and, if you can't reach it, you don't get a license!
Fuckem!

They, the ones you talk about are the 'AVERAGE' person, the ones speed restrictions are aimed at.
AND about 1/2 of those you share the roads with ain't even up to 'average' - unlike yourself who is obviously above average in the riding stakes..