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    Quote Originally Posted by one fast tl1ooo View Post
    NO IT IS THE SUDDEN STOP....................
    So it should be...

    "The faster you go, the more severe is the sudden stop...." ????

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    Quote Originally Posted by Toot Toot View Post
    If speed killed there would be a lotta dead pilots.
    Not too many walk away from their bins....

    But I'm sure they all say "it wasn't the speed I was doing that killed me..." (If they were alive, that is.... HUH....???)

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    Quote Originally Posted by Patrick View Post
    Not too many walk away from their bins....

    But I'm sure they all say "it wasn't the speed I was doing that killed me..." (If they were alive, that is.... HUH....???)
    ...it was the fact that I crashed due to a fuck up....!
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    Quote Originally Posted by SPman View Post
    ...it was the fact that I crashed due to a fuck up....!
    Kinda like most speeders then...?

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    Quote Originally Posted by one fast tl1ooo View Post
    NO IT IS THE SUDDEN STOP....................
    What he said

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    If Speed Killed Hammond Would Be Dead.
    The Faster You Go, The Quicker You Get There!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Scuba_Steve View Post
    If Speed Killed Hammond Would Be Dead.
    The Faster You Go, The Quicker You Get There!
    (Devil's Advocate here) It's not the speed that kills you, its how and how quickly you go from that speed to stopped that does it. He managed to fuck himself over pretty severely without ever actually hitting anything, which should indicate that, in his case at least, simply being at that speed was inherently dangerous.

    Of course, none of that means that speed restrictions make any sense. A 100km/hr limit being imposed on narrow, winding, potholed country roads by definition means that a wide laned, well surfaced, straight section of motorway could be driven on faster with the same degree of safety.

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    In the 70s and 80s (and 90s in some countries ) 60kph was considered a safe speed through towns and if you were driving faster than that you were considered a maniac.

    Suddenly, world changed and now everything above 50kph is going to kill you. In another 20 years or so anything above 40kph will kill you.

    The same will be with the open road speed limits. Just wait until the nanny state becomes a reality (we've had just a taste of it. Wait until they become as fascist as in UK).

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    Quote Originally Posted by centaurus View Post
    In the 70s and 80s (and 90s in some countries ) 60kph was considered a safe speed through towns and if you were driving faster than that you were considered a maniac.

    Suddenly, world changed and now everything above 50kph is going to kill you. In another 20 years or so anything above 40kph will kill you.

    The same will be with the open road speed limits. Just wait until the nanny state becomes a reality (we've had just a taste of it. Wait until they become as fascist as in UK).
    Yeah, and don't think that voting National in has gotten rid of the nanny-state direction. They're still plenty happy to tell you what you can and can't do and are just as happy to pass useless legislation just for the sake of being able to say they are doing something.

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    Quote Originally Posted by jono035 View Post
    Yeah, and don't think that voting National in has gotten rid of the nanny-state direction. They're still plenty happy to tell you what you can and can't do and are just as happy to pass useless legislation just for the sake of being able to say they are doing something.
    You're right. Who thinks the nanny state was/is the Labour's invention better think again. It's an international trend and more and more first world countries adhere to this crap. Soon we will need to travel to the third world countries if we even want to fart with a faster speed than the legal one.

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    Fuck this, motorbikes are just trouble, I'm sellin' up, motorbike, helmet, gloves, leather jacket. All up for sale. I'm going down town this afternoon and joining the Automobile Association for a whole new sensible start.

    I've made the decision, bloody motorbikes were always an over-rated mode of transport anyway. Cars are where it's at these days. Motorbikes have had it.

    From now on any two-wheeled bastard gets in the way of my Nissan Patrol, they'll be skittled like they deserve. Cages rule...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Viscount Montgomery View Post
    Fuck this, motorbikes are just trouble, I'm sellin' up, motorbike, helmet, gloves, leather jacket. All up for sale. I'm going down town this afternoon and joining the Automobile Association for a whole new sensible start.

    I've made the decision, bloody motorbikes were always an over-rated mode of transport anyway. Cars are where it's at these days. Motorbikes have had it.

    From now on any two-wheeled bastard gets in the way of my Nissan Patrol, they'll be skittled like they deserve. Cages rule...
    about time somone on here understands what kb is all about.

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    Then I could get a Kb Tshirt, move to Timaru and become a full time crossdressing faggot

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    onto topic,

    speed is the scalar magnitude of a velocity vector, by definition.

    So how can a scalar object (no direction) kill someone one?

    It cant, the full responsibility on any injury or accident is not on speed but on the human controlling the car.

    Crashes are NOT single factor events, they are random multifactor events.

    The statement speed kills is annoying because anyone who isn't a layman can easily see speed dosent kill. You cant honestly tell me that if you increase your speed from 100 to 110 to 120 to 130 that you are at more risk of crashing. That may be the case if accidents were a single factor event. They are not, you speed you increase your breaking distance (factoring in your reaction times etc).

    Is speed to blame for the guy who drives his car at 120 has a tire blow and goes into a ditch?

    You can tell me that IF i did have a crash at higher speed there would be more damage done and less chance of survivability.

    Who decides the speed limit of 100km/hr? Roading engineers? Councilors? Government? After a massive study on speed? No, the voting public decided on the 100km/hr limit. The rest of them have the power to set it at what ever they want but the original limit of 100 (up from 80) was set by you and I (well our (grand?)parents probably).

    Speed is not the largest killer in NZ. It is our ABYSMAL lack of the most basic driving skills, our horrible road conditions (mainly influenced by our geography and lack of money) and our poor vehicle fleet condition.

    The solution? money. Its quite simple. Spend money on driver TRAINING. in NZ you don't get any. Not one bit. You get a test. How many drivers know why breaking on a curve is a bad idea? How many know the give way rules? How many know how to scan the road for hazards? How many know what effect rain, gravel, oil, ice will have on there car? How many know what to do? How many have actually practiced any of it?

    Not enough.

    Pilots, train, bus, taxi drivers all go through some form of training, at different levels. Why? Because of 2 main reasons,

    1. What they do is technically complicated and not a natural instinct.
    2. Their actions can save or lose hundreds of peoples lives.

    The same applies to every single road user today. Everyone on here knows someone who has died in a vehicle accident - I know several. I know people who have taken the life of others on the road. I know a guy who is now mentally retarded directly because of the drivers inability to drive.

    Spend money on roads - everyone knows our roads are shit. Just ask III if you dont.

    Spend money on the vehicle fleet - so many unsafe, yet wof qualified cars on the road its not funny.

    BUT even if we had the best drivers and the best roads in the best cars we will still have accidents. But speed wont ever be the sole cause.
    Then I could get a Kb Tshirt, move to Timaru and become a full time crossdressing faggot

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