Protest Ride-Cautionary Note

[chanceyy]

i have put my hand up to babysit the l platers and other slow riders on the leg between levin and porirua. i am riding a 250, and like them, prefer to be out of the main group if possible. i am intending on a speed of about 60-70k MAX! and have a first aid kit should the worst happen. i would also recommend that, once in the main group, the slower riders keep to the left of the lane, for reasons i have outlined earlier.
i will not encourage l platers to remove those plates... there will be a heavy police presence, and i have heard of insurance being declined due to lack of plate.

We have several options here, will fill in the Lead riders & TEC's of the slow & newbie groups

C - I have you down as a TEC of the L platers, speed has already been discussed & will be advised on riders brief

Left Lane???? We should be in the RIGHT lane.
We chose the left lane for the cheesecutter ride and were constantly cut up by people merging from the on ramps on the left.
If we are in the RIGHT lane we are out of harms way

that poses its own set of probs Tart .. right hand lane will force underpassing & I thought the right lane should only be used for passing traffic

we will get cars wanting to merge into an offramp but am thinking with the volume of bikes they will prob park & watch too

[sunhuntin]

We have several options here, will fill in the Lead riders & TEC's of the slow & newbie groups

C - I have you down as a TEC of the L platers, speed has already been discussed & will be advised on riders brief

sweet as. i will be at the bar early so will catch up then to make sure im 110% clear on whats happening.

[chanceyy]

sweet as. i will be at the bar early so will catch up then to make sure im 110% clear on whats happening.

no worries C you will be 200% clear

[grantnz]

Good stuff. Another point to remember is watch the TEMPERATURE GUAGE on your bike. Yesterday at the Hawkes Bay run, my bike was sitting on 100 to 105 degrees, and that was only a short ride thru town. Normal highway temp is 69 to 71 degrees. If it's a warm / hot day expect a lot of overheated bikes and fried clutches. If you can't find neutral when stopped in 1st gear, snick it into neutral as you roll to a stop.Don't sit for more than 30 seconds with clutch in, while in gear.

[MSTRS:Me]

that poses its own set of probs Tart .. right hand lane will force underpassing & I thought the right lane should only be used for passing traffic

Passing in a lane to the left is not underpassing. Undertaking describes the action whereby someone passes another vehicle on the left, but within the same lane. It's one of the areas that catches lanesplitters...
Otherwise, you are right. But this is not a normal event, and I would think that safety would take precedence over 'law'.

we will get cars wanting to merge into an offramp but am thinking with the volume of bikes they will prob park & watch too

You reckon? Think again.
A 2km line of bikes didn't stop the arseholes from forcing in at those onramps, causing a lot of trouble. A longer line will make no difference in that regard.
I realise that it's not 'legal' to sit in the 'fast' lane at 70kph, BUT IT'S SAFER.

[AD345]

Passing in a lane to the left is not underpassing. Undertaking describes the action whereby someone passes another vehicle on the left, but within the same lane. It's one of the areas that catches lanesplitters...
Otherwise, you are right. But this is not a normal event, and I would think that safety would take precedence over 'law'.
You reckon? Think again.
A 2km line of bikes didn't stop the arseholes from forcing in at those onramps, causing a lot of trouble. A longer line will make no difference in that regard.
I realise that it's not 'legal' to sit in the 'fast' lane at 70kph, BUT IT'S SAFER.

Agreed

I will NOT be in the left lane on the motorway in any sort of convoy. Therein lies disaster, not just with those vehicles coming on but also those leaving.

PLEASE rethink this

[chanceyy]

Passing in a lane to the left is not underpassing. Undertaking describes the action whereby someone passes another vehicle on the left, but within the same lane. It's one of the areas that catches lanesplitters...
Otherwise, you are right. But this is not a normal event, and I would think that safety would take precedence over 'law'.
You reckon? Think again.
A 2km line of bikes didn't stop the arseholes from forcing in at those onramps, causing a lot of trouble. A longer line will make no difference in that regard.
I realise that it's not 'legal' to sit in the 'fast' lane at 70kph, BUT IT'S SAFER.

ah John rather a moot point since from the police college the police are in charge so where they tell us to ride is where we will be riding

however (and yes it was a smaller group) 2 weeks ago we certainly had ppl pulling over watching the convoy head past.

Other very large group rides I have been on in welly & cars getting on & off was not that much of an issue ..

[junkmanjoe]

Im gutted i can not join the convoy.
ride safe and bring it home for the riders who cant make it..

i guess ill watch it on the news...

JMJ

[MSTRS:Me]

ah John rather a moot point since from the police college the police are in charge so where they tell us to ride is where we will be riding

however (and yes it was a smaller group) 2 weeks ago we certainly had ppl pulling over watching the convoy head past.

Other very large group rides I have been on in welly & cars getting on & off was not that much of an issue ..

I thought Ulysses were 'in charge'?
Whatever, I still stand by what I said. Certainly, some will pull over or otherwise stop to watch, but it only takes a few to cause carnage. And you better believe that those few are out there and they will be causing chaos at those on/off ramps. Being in the right lane is the ONLY way to avoid that trouble.
But if we are told to stay on the left, then that is what we must do. I only hope that no-one is killed etc because of what I see as a stupid decision re this part of traffic management.

[AD345]

ah John rather a moot point since from the police college the police are in charge so where they tell us to ride is where we will be riding

however (and yes it was a smaller group) 2 weeks ago we certainly had ppl pulling over watching the convoy head past.

Other very large group rides I have been on in welly & cars getting on & off was not that much of an issue ..

Jeez it's hard to keep track of the threads....

I'm OK with the Police controlled part but what about the bit leading up to the college, are we going to be in the left lane there?

[MSTRS:Me]

Jeez it's hard to keep track of the threads....

I'm OK with the Police controlled part but what about the bit leading up to the college, are we going to be in the left lane there?

Very little 2 laned road prior to that. So won't be a problem. It's the Porirua m/way that I am concerned about.

[chanceyy]

Jeez it's hard to keep track of the threads....

I'm OK with the Police controlled part but what about the bit leading up to the college, are we going to be in the left lane there?

yeah when you come through Mana you will need to go straight through the very large roundabout (its 2 lanes all around) need to stay in the left lane after navigating this as the turn off for the police college is approx 1 k away to your left

[huff3r]

yeah when you come through Mana you will need to go straight through the very large roundabout (its 2 lanes all around) need to stay in the left lane after navigating this as the turn off for the police college is approx 1 k away to your left

Unless you go left at the big one, then right at the small one and you'll be on Paremata Rd already.... but i guess that might get a bit tight for a big convoy... Although there is a servo on the corner, incase anyones running out

[KoroJ]

Riding all the way in the left lane will be far safer than trying to get a very large group across the lanes to exit. That would be interesting!!

The police will be endeavouring to protect the bikes from cars leading to the Aotea Off Ramp. Also the convoy will be split into groups, by the lights from Avalon on SH2 and by design from Papakowhai on SH1. This will create gaps for other vehicles to slot into.

Great care is requested when merging with other traffic at the Ngauranga interchange and exiting the Aotea Off Ramp as these are the two potential problem areas.

If any riders have concerns about riding in the large groups, feel free to ask for Kennif at Papakowhai or myself at Avalon. We will be the last to leave each site and will not mind escorting a special seperate group if needs be.

[chanceyy]

from local knowledge, its best that we stay on the motorway, free turn at the lights, and staying in the left lane, will get us to the destination. with congestion & getting off the main route will just be confusing ..