Protest Ride-Cautionary Note

[Hopeful Bastard]

Just a thought on speed, I understand restricted licence holders have a speed restriction of 70kph ??? as a condition of their licence these days.
If thats the top speed they have been riding at alone, the group will need to be slower with the close proximity of the other riders.
These guys will be scared shitless, even if they dont want to admit to it.
The experienced will need to look after them and look out for them

i do believe the learners are being sent off earlier?

[chanceyy]

i do believe the learners are being sent off earlier?

thats from Levin to police college, depending on numbers & who turns up early to leave early ... From wellington to stadium its stoney & police who are in control at that point ..

you still planning to ride ?

[Hopeful Bastard]

Planning on it.. Planning very hard on it too. hehe. Got yelled at by mum for riding the bike without insurance or a licence Bored me to death with her lecture

But i could see her point of view. hehe. But nothing is stopping me at this present point of time. (apart from a lack of a certain piece of paper) And the police that go past my house every so often

[Wasp27]

Just a thought on speed, I understand restricted licence holders have a speed restriction of 70kph ??? as a condition of their licence these days.
If thats the top speed they have been riding at alone, the group will need to be slower with the close proximity of the other riders.
These guys will be scared shitless, even if they dont want to admit to it.
The experienced will need to look after them and look out for them

Hi Footloose... you raise an extremely valid point... WHY ARE WE TAKING THE MOST VULNERABLE AMONGST US OUT OF THEIR COMFORT ZONE????. This is precisely the reason I suggested 60kph in the first place. Surely its not rocket science. I'm hoping that even at this late stage the organizers will reconsider. If the organizers are not prepared to consider the welfare of the slower less experienced riders... then I urge them to revoke their invitation for this group to attend the Protest Ride. I cannot (will not) sit idly by and watch people put at unnecessary risk..... FOR ANY REASON.
Are we not doing exactly what we are accusing Nix Myth of doing?

[GOONR]

Hi Footloose... you raise an extremely valid point... WHY ARE WE TAKING THE MOST VULNERABLE AMONGST US OUT OF THEIR COMFORT ZONE????. This is precisely the reason I suggested 60kph in the first place. Surely its not rocket science. I'm hoping that even at this late stage the organizers will reconsider. If the organizers are not prepared to consider the welfare of the slower less experienced riders... then I urge them to revoke their invitation for this group to attend the Protest Ride. I cannot (will not) sit idly by and watch people put at unnecessary risk..... FOR ANY REASON.
Are we not doing exactly what we are accusing Nix Myth of doing?

Point of view from a new rider, I've been riding for about 4 months....

I'm not doing the Wellington ride, I would love to but it is a ride that is WAY beyond me. I'd be quite comfortable going at open road speeds on roads that I know but not in a group of that size, it would be daunting.

I am under no illusion that the concentration levels required for a ride like that would be huge and even though people say ride your own ride I'm not prepared to take the risk. The peer pressure that people may put on themselves (me included) to keep up could take them out of their comfort zone, they could end up stuffing up for whatever reason. I don't want to be that person.

I am going to do the ride in Auckland, it start's on a motorway that I drive / ride often and I've been assured that the speed will be controlled. If I'm uncomfortable I can peel off at anytime and just head to the end point on my own cutting through the suburb's. I couldn't do that on the ride to Wellington.

If there is even a small amount of doubt in my head about my capability of doing a ride then I won't go. I sincerely hope that bravado doesn't get the better of anyone's judgement when making the call to go on a ride of this size.

My 2c.

[avgas]

I am personally staying away from the chaos that is the bikeoi.
If you all make it there in 1 piece then you have my congratulations. But I personally believe a rolling protest is going to do us more harm than good. Sure for 5km its ok - but your talking about 100's of k's.
I have seen accidents happy during funeral runs.....and I'm too much of a pussy to see one happen here.

Just out of interest tell me this:
Did the Maori get their land back?
Was the anti-smacking bill abolished?

Good luck and sorry I can not attend

[GOONR]

Something else to consider about the speed.

I thought about taking the L plate off the bike for the Auckland run so that if the speed did creep up then I wouldn't be hit by plod for going over 70k. Now that I have thought about it a bit more it's staying on. The reason it is staying on is because I want the other bikes around me to know that I don't have a great deal of experience.

If I have thought about doing that you can be sure that others have too.

[Wasp27]

Something else to consider about the speed.

I thought about taking the L plate off the bike for the Auckland run so that if the speed did creep up then I wouldn't be hit by plod for going over 70k. Now that I have thought about it a bit more it's staying on. The reason it is staying on is because I want the other bikes around me to know that I don't have a great deal of experience.

If I have thought about doing that you can be sure that others have too.

Congratulations GOONR... another reasoned thinker, well done this man ;-)

[sunhuntin]

i have put my hand up to babysit the l platers and other slow riders on the leg between levin and porirua. i am riding a 250, and like them, prefer to be out of the main group if possible. i am intending on a speed of about 60-70k MAX! and have a first aid kit should the worst happen. i would also recommend that, once in the main group, the slower riders keep to the left of the lane, for reasons i have outlined earlier.
i will not encourage l platers to remove those plates... there will be a heavy police presence, and i have heard of insurance being declined due to lack of plate.

[Wasp27]

i have put my hand up to babysit the l platers and other slow riders on the leg between levin and porirua. i am riding a 250, and like them, prefer to be out of the main group if possible. i am intending on a speed of about 60-70k MAX! and have a first aid kit should the worst happen. i would also recommend that, once in the main group, the slower riders keep to the left of the lane, for reasons i have outlined earlier.
i will not encourage l platers to remove those plates... there will be a heavy police presence, and i have heard of insurance being declined due to lack of plate.

Congrats to you as well Charlie... you go girl, Fantastic :-)

[sunhuntin]

cheers. looking forward to seeing you and the rest of the guys from over that way. its been too long. wish it wasnt so far to come and visit.

[Pixie]

I'm leaving KKK at 03:00 using SH1 (which will be a change,haven't been on it south of Rangiriri for years).Western access around Taupo.
Probably catch some of the 2 day trippers near Wellington

[Quasi]

Hey - if anyone here wants to be involved but not ride on the bikeoi as not ready for it, we still need marshalls for Wellington - Stadium and Parliament. PM Ms Piggy. She is organising the marshalls. Thanks heaps and see you all on Tuesday

[Kennif]

Speed is not going to be the issue - rear-ending the bike in front will be.
Wellington Ulysses will be briefing all the riders at Papakowhai and Avalon before the final run along the motorway into the city. The messages will be simple:

- 70kph is the speed
- stay in the left lane
- where appropriate ride in a staggered formation
- watch the bike in front.

Remember what happened in Auckland - a whole heap of bikes met and protested. TV3 report focused on the rider who collided with a car immediately afterwards.

[yungatart]

Speed is not going to be the issue - rear-ending the bike in front will be.
Wellington Ulysses will be briefing all the riders at Papakowhai and Avalon before the final run along the motorway into the city. The messages will be simple:

- 70kph is the speed
- stay in the left lane
- where appropriate ride in a staggered formation
- watch the bike in front.

Remember what happened in Auckland - a whole heap of bikes met and protested. TV3 report focused on the rider who collided with a car immediately afterwards.

Left Lane???? We should be in the RIGHT lane.
We chose the left lane for the cheesecutter ride and were constantly cut up by people merging from the on ramps on the left.
If we are in the RIGHT lane we are out of harms way