Hardcore Biker
What is the stats on the onwership of bikes in NZ?
What is the membership on KB?
Was just wondering why there are no major international bike racing events in NZ? Would love to see the Superbikes and MotoGP in Auckland or Welly. Surely there would be enough interest from the public if organised properly. I know alot of friends who dont own bikes but are interested in watching bike races.
Hardcore Biker
If Hampton Downs actually gets built or Taupo upgraded then who knows? I can't see MotoGP happening to be honest (but would be stoked if it did) but SBK? Been here before so if we could get a facility that could take them, maybe. Not so far from Phillip Island we aren't so not a huge extra expense for the teams to pop over the ditch.
Hardcore Biker
If the international Rally and V8s can make it over here, so can the SBK or other international bike races. I too think motogp is only a dream for us. I wouldnt mind doing a cashflow Cost analysis to see if it is viable to bring SBK to NZ. Will need major sponsors for it to work.
Forum whore
Our racetracks aren't good enough to attract the events, and the attendance at the events is pathetic compared to, say, Spain. Gate entry is where the event organiser makes their money to pay for or the organisational costs, such as TV and DORNA/FIM fees to host the event. If no one goes the local organiser/track owner lose millions. You need tens of thousands of people to turn up to these events. You would be lucky to get gate entries of 5000 in NZ.Originally Posted by Fart
The only track that gets close is the new one proposed for the Waikato, and even it is being planned and built at a level that doesn't qualify to host top level motorsport events.
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I believe it will be built to standards agreeable to all forms of motorsport with the exception of F1. The plans have included the ability to upgrade easily to the required grade if ever required.
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Forum whore
New Zealand holds the final round in the World Long Track Speedway Championship,2006 the ISDE is being held in New Zealand - we are on the world map...just not in your world eh?
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Forum whore
Insert Tui ad response here.
If a man is alone in the woods and there isn't a woke Hollywood around to call him racist, is he still white?
Forum whore
Tens of thousands? Recent Motogp race I watched (can't remember) had an attendance well over 100,000 people. Very very very small chance of that happening over here. But like someone said, WSB has been here before so maybe just maybe, who knows.
bikes
There isnt a NZ owned company big enough to cover the cost of building the track venue and having it certified to DORNA and FIM regulations. Also, not enough people in the country to fund the cost of development thru taxes.
It costs about $5m+ to do the track and your looking at about another $10-20m for the required facilities. Then there is the license costs you'd have to pay to host the event etc etc.
Given that they cant even sort out the v8 racing event, I doubt anyone would be able to commision a proper track.
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Hardcore Biker
$20 million is small money when compare to the huge amount of money coming from revenues generated from the tens of thousands of motorsports fans coming into the country. Lets put it into perspective. Tax payer funded the America's cup that lasted only a few months of every fours years and cost over $50 million.
frequent infrequenter
could you really see the worlds best going round Taupo after coming from tracks like Brands Hatch, Sepang, Malaysia etc..? it'd be funny, but I don't think they'd stay for lunch
One problem that NZ has time over, is the fact that if events like this were brought here, the country would grind to a halt. The traffic of people and vehicles alone would desimate our network.. We need to fix that before we invite more people to come to our wonderful country..
Hardcore Biker
Never say "NO" Bugjuice. Many years back the Americans were laughing at us when we tried to bring the America's Cup South.
Forum whore
You can't compare it to the America's cup as that "event" lasted years, with months of run up to the final event, which takes place over weeks. A motorsport event would last a weekend. The money might be "small money" but motorsport has less profile than women's hockey in NZ. Then there is the small issue of the RMA provisions for the site. Tens of thousands of people would no doubt be in abeyance of the conditions and provisions Hampton Downs is built under. There is also the small matter of enough hotel accommodation at the site that needs to turn a profit during the rest of the year.
I doubt we would attract more than say 5-6000 from the Pacific rim, and then there is the small matter of getting them to the track. Local attendance needs to recoup the losses that the organisers take up front, which can amount to 100s of millions at the very top level of motorsport. There are penalties for not meeting attendance minimums, track condition, and general level of facilites.
I think we should aim for having an Aussie V8 race, and an Aussie superbike round in the near to medium future at Hampton Downs. The profit from the cars would probably offset the loss from the bikes.
Remember you are arguing from a passionate, knowledgeable position. I would be surprised if we could rustle up double percentage figures of the overall NZ population who would have a positive image of motorcycle racing, let alone provide financial support to the venture.
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Forum whore
Off topic a bit, but I'm sure a few years ago (maybe 10?) there was a plan to bring a number of top level racers to NZ for a one-off race to be held annually. Racers such as (and this will prove the '10 years ago' bit) Schwantz (sp?), Gardner, Lawson, Rainey, Mamola, Doohan and many others. Never eventuated though. Anyone else remember this?
frequent infrequenter
oh not sayig "NO", just saying fair way to "GO" if it isn't to cripple the place and make NZ look like a right dik..
I'd love to see it here, just trying to imagine the extra peeps in the country (well, city..)
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