One rego - 2 or more bikes, is there a good case?

[ukusa]

I think some of you guys missed the point, its about collecting more money , not less

I think you're right. There is no way they will even bother to look at changing what they've got when they're onto a winner. All the excuses under the sun will come out from the bureaucrats as why it can't be changed.
I totally agree we're being ripped by double dipping, but given the state of the ACC & their mis-management, anything that will reduce the intake of money in the coffers will just be ignored.

[mashman]

Maybe you're right - but Dangerous's idea of the rider paying an annual ACC fee with that recorded against his license? - I suppose that would lead to lots taking the chance of not being pulled in for a license check although you would have to have your fees up to date to be able to register your bike....

There's no easy ways around this but there is still the principal that we should only have to pay once for the service - it is fundamentally wrong for anyone to pay twice (or more) for ACC coverage and fundamentally that requires the cover to be targeted at the person rather than the vehicle

Well that's the thing isn't it, MAYBE i'm right, could be quite the opposite... In my eyes it's unfair to lump the ACC levy onto vehicles period, primarily as i can stand up from the couch and injure myself... so pushing the ACC levy on to people seems like the only way to make it a fair system, as it was intended to be...

Whichever way it's done, someone will feel that they have been singled out etc... just take a look at how insurance companies and the health service calculate BMI...

Another problem with personal ACC is what happens when you wish to opt out of paying an ACC levy... why? well you might have private insurance that covers anything that happens to you, so why should i pay an extra X amount of dollars to ride my bike when i'm fully covered?

The whole system needs to be looked at... I'd be interested to hear thoughts on the following:

How many people are in the country? 4 million? why are we over complicating things? If the total bill for ACC is 400 million (per year for future and/or past claims), sounds like we all need to pay 100 bucks a year... kinda like a health insurance premium if ya like, a 1 off fee to cover you for the year... that way we all pay the same amount and noone is marginalised, link it to tax brackets if ya like to compensate for those that are unable to afford the fee etc... I know the figures above could be miles out, but you get the idea... you can opt in or opt out should you wish to do so... What's the problem with this system? You could also add a fee for sporting events. You wanna play sport, then $1 per day covers a person...

there are plenty of solutions that would be a "more fair" way of collecting ACC levies, it only takes the ACC to sit down and stop looking at people with dollar sign eyes...

sorry for the rant... as you were

[crazyhorse]

Only other way to go is private insurance -and I firmly believe it will come to that crunch one day - and probably sooner than later - we follow America's way, and one day it will be here...................

[sidecar bob]

ACC should be an annual fee paid on your drivers licence, no plate swapping etc, just a holder bolted to the number plate that the licence is put into when riding. At $1000 per year on my licence i would still save better than $4000 over registering all my vehicles individually.

[yachtie10]

Only other way to go is private insurance -and I firmly believe it will come to that crunch one day - and probably sooner than later - we follow America's way, and one day it will be here...................

fuck I hope not
way worse than what we have

[mashman]

ACC should be an annual fee paid on your drivers licence, no plate swapping etc, just a holder bolted to the number plate that the licence is put into when riding. At $1000 per year on my licence i would still save better than $4000 over registering all my vehicles individually.

Why put the levy on vehicles at all, it applies to everyone.... I have myself, my wife and my 3 daughters. If the ACC require 400 million to function, that's me forking out 1000 bucks a year... Same 1000 as you, but the levy is on me and the family. You already have WOF and rego you're vehicles so that they're allowed on the road... why should you pay yet another ACC levy on the vehicle, or the owner for that matter... EVERYONE has the potential to use ACC... why not chare the cost amongst everyone?

[Insanity_rules]

Instead of two bikes one rego we get something more akin to two girls one cup. Go ACC.

[yachtie10]

ACC should be an annual fee paid on your drivers licence, no plate swapping etc, just a holder bolted to the number plate that the licence is put into when riding. At $1000 per year on my licence i would still save better than $4000 over registering all my vehicles individually.

so many holes in this i dont know where to start

basically the current system of collection is flawed
I think they should increase the other levies (Fuel etc) and keep the vehicle levy under $200 (or lower) so people will pay it and are not so harshly dealt with if they have multiple vehicles

[Moki]

Paying an annual fee for vehicle types sanctioned on your driver's license whould be the fairest approach. How much is paid for this fee can be determined by previous driving offences and ACC claim history.....starting to sound like insurance, doesn't it? BUT think about it, there are those who abuse the system and refuse to take responsibility for their own -and others - safety on the roads, so why should that sort of person NOT be liable to pay more?