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    Quote Originally Posted by Winston001 View Post
    However - would you expect to insure only one bike if you owned three? What happens to your mate/partner/mechanic riding your unregistered bike and has an accident? Will you cover that since no ACC levy has been paid??
    Firstly my 78 Z1R 1000 Classic has a completely different insurance rate! Its much reduced from what was on my VTR1000. I don't see ACC proposing that at all!

    You assume the only system is to attach ACC levies to vehicles! Which is the heart of our argument about fairness, Its simply not and possibly illegal. which is what we are asking in this thread? With rego at the present levels its manageable, basically we don't mind paying a bit extra, but put them up to $800 and its discriminatory and unfair!

    Secondly as we all know very very rarely do any of us let others ride our bikes! Even if we own more than one! Its the one question you never ever ask "can I ride your baby?" You wait to be offered usually! So the sharing a bike thing is a red herring!

    BTW: If you where a mechanic wouldn't you have a current license with an ACC levy attached or have paid for the petrol in it if the levies where on those suggestions put forward??

    Or have ACC levies already paid though your company/job/occupation ACC charges?? Shouldn't all the professionals in the trade already be covered even Bike salesman. Their employers pay ACC don't they? How many times to they want to charge for riding a bike!!
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    Are there no arguments around natural justice? Is it fair/just/reasonable to expect Motorcyclists alone to pay for the extra risk associated with their lifestyle choices? It seems to me if we could point out how everyone is cross-subsidised in some way for risks they take in some part of their lives we may bget more sympathy... at the moment it appears that only we are mooching off all other levy payers!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Winston001 View Post
    However - would you expect to insure only one bike if you owned three? What happens to your mate/partner/mechanic riding your unregistered bike and has an accident? Will you cover that since no ACC levy has been paid??
    If the mechanic rides and crashes, technically should be work account but on public road so traffic account or unless it is in the drive way or in the shop and drops it etc goes back to work account. One of the reasons ACC was never designed to have seperate accounts and should go back to the super account. As for the actual bike insurance the shop insurance should cover it.

    My mate is not insured to ride my bike so he probably never will. If he steals or takes it with out ask it becomes a criminal act and is a different kettle of fish for ACC. technicall crims should only get a patch up and none of the on going crap that goes on for 20 years

    My partner is insured to ride my bike as I am insured to ride hers... whats the difference. If it is done by license then they would be covered would they not, no matter what you ride, drive or are passenger in or on? As you can be in one place at a time...

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