So how much do you reckon it will be when the dust settles?

**NONONO** · 12th November 2009, 18:21

Originally Posted by 325rocket

heres what is going to happen ...

zero increase and a statement that goes something like ...

"after reviewing the proposed increase we have taken all concerns into account and will not increase the ACC levy on road registered motorcycles. however New Zealand can not afford to carry the continued loss due to motorbike accidents. Due to this we have no choice but to open ACC up to competition from the private sector."

We are doing exactly what they expect / want us to do but what other options do we have.

See, here's the thing, it's political..
My old mate had a saying, went like this...
"if you hit them hard enough...you knock em out..
and then they are on the ground see?
And then they have to go to hospital, and they don't never bovver you again"
Two things ,
1. he was from the east end of London, my mate, and a bit on the big side. Therefore always right.
2. It rhymes.
All good eh?

**Pixie** · 12th November 2009, 18:58

Originally Posted by StoneY

I am aiming for ZERO increase

Or even a reduction once the truth has been exposed

We rolled over 10 months ago whne thay doubled it, im NOT lettine them raise it any further, its unjustifiable

BIKEOI peacfully...then outright revolution if we are ignored
WORD

I will only accept a 0% increase

**twotyred** · 12th November 2009, 21:15

2 steps forward,one step back... they'll get a huge increase,but not as large as they pretended they needed... then everyone will feel all warm and fuzzy that they showed those pollies how strong we the people are... and National will still be laughing,at the end of the day

**Kiwi Graham:Me** · 12th November 2009, 21:16

0% is what I am hopeful to expect and am with Stoney on the idea that if full exposure to the ACC bullshit happens even a reduction!

A fair, evenly distributed levy for all motorists. Not targeting minority groups

**StoneY** · 12th November 2009, 21:18

Originally Posted by Cloggy

Be careful how you vote. It won't be just us (bikers) looking at this website and these polls.
If too many vote 100% increase (double what you are paying now) then this could be seen as an acceptable compromise by ACC and the government.
The only acceptable increase is zero or negative.

Mate, when I make PM, your gonna run my treasury...(I mean OUR treasury)

**vstrom** · 16th November 2009, 06:01

get real the price is going up.we pay 500+ to insure a bike worth say 15g whats the big deal about payin a bit more than that to cover ourselfs, id like to think im worth a bit more than a bike .keep wingin and sell ya bikes. get off your arces and go and earne ya $ to pay your bills ,or get out of the game

**Pixie** · 16th November 2009, 06:35

Originally Posted by vstrom

get real the price is going up.we pay 500+ to insure a bike worth say 15g whats the big deal about payin a bit more than that to cover ourselfs, id like to think im worth a bit more than a bike .keep wingin and sell ya bikes. get off your arces and go and earne ya $ to pay your bills ,or get out of the game

Go back to your desk,

ACChole

**bogan** · 16th November 2009, 07:37

The dust shall never settle until this ridiculous levy increase is abolished. Unfortunately thatll probably be when it all goes private though.

**wysper** · 16th November 2009, 07:41

I think National runs the risk of losing power if they push this through. And not just because it is a big increase and a hit to bikers... they will push another special interest group and then another and all of a sudden their voting block will have diminished greatly. I would say there are many National voters that are bikers. This will hit National where it really hurts. Their seat - seat of power.

Even if they don't back down now - they may find themselves in opposition thinking how it all went wrong.

**MSTRS:Me** · 16th November 2009, 07:57

Originally Posted by wysper

I think National runs the risk of losing power if they push this through. And not just because it is a big increase and a hit to bikers... they will push another special interest group and then another and all of a sudden their voting block will have diminished greatly. I would say there are many National voters that are bikers. This will hit National where it really hurts. Their seat - seat of power.

Even if they don't back down now - they may find themselves in opposition thinking how it all went wrong.

And that formed part of our address on Saturday.

**NighthawkNZ:Me** · 16th November 2009, 08:01

Originally Posted by bogan

The dust shall never settle until this ridiculous levy increase is abolished. Unfortunately thatll probably be when it all goes private though.

which means it will be higher

**Kiwi Graham:Me** · 16th November 2009, 08:48

Originally Posted by vstrom

get real the price is going up.we pay 500+ to insure a bike worth say 15g whats the big deal about payin a bit more than that to cover ourselfs, id like to think im worth a bit more than a bike .keep wingin and sell ya bikes. get off your arces and go and earne ya $ to pay your bills ,or get out of the game

So is Nick Smith (aka shit head) a KBer now?