So how much do you reckon it will be when the dust settles?

**Kiwi Graham:Me** · 12th November 2009, 11:27

So after all the protests and submissions and they have gone away and reviewed everything. There is a feeling that the initial massive price hike proposal is meant to make the 'real' price rise more paltable.

How much do you recon it will go up if thats the case?

**vifferman** · 12th November 2009, 11:31

12 meeeeleeeons.

Or perhaps $376.27 (plus GST).

**Ender EnZed** · 12th November 2009, 13:05

Are we talking about the increase for the over 600cc bikes only here?

**StoneY** · 12th November 2009, 13:32

I am aiming for ZERO increase

Or even a reduction once the truth has been exposed

We rolled over 10 months ago whne thay doubled it, im NOT lettine them raise it any further, its unjustifiable

BIKEOI peacfully...then outright revolution if we are ignored
WORD

**Kiwi Graham:Me** · 12th November 2009, 13:49

Originally Posted by Ender EnZed

Are we talking about the increase for the over 600cc bikes only here?

Each capacity is getting huge increases proposed so its all relative.

**YellowDog** · 12th November 2009, 14:10

I would hope that I am completely wrong however I suspect that this will all go through as proposed and there will be the possibility of a restructure at a later date.

Especially when they find that revenues have in fact not increased as projected and there are many non-rego illegal riders on the road.

There will be lots of rego suspensions over the winter.

**Ender EnZed** · 12th November 2009, 14:19

Originally Posted by Kiwi Graham

Each capacity is getting huge increases proposed so its all relative.

But there's currently a flat rate for all capacities (scooters don't count), so the proposed percentage increase is different for each capacity.

But I'm expecting to pay 100% less after the dust has settled anyway.

**Laxi** · 12th November 2009, 14:22

i'm not ready to talk "settling" yet, are you?

**Bald Eagle** · 12th November 2009, 14:34

Originally Posted by Laxi

i'm not ready to talk "settling" yet, are you?

This is only the curtain raiser. The real battles start on the 18th.
I don't for one moment expect either ACC or the Government to back off at the first sign of opposition. We are in this for the long haul with the objective of a complete review of ACC structures and charges.

**madmal64** · 12th November 2009, 15:36

No increase on motorcycle rego's is what I would expect the outcome to be, BUT you watch them move to another forms of revenue collection. Some of it will be quite up front like at drivers license level and others will be more subtle and hidden.

**kwaka_crasher** · 12th November 2009, 16:33

50 to 100% increase is my best guess regardless of what we do.

**Cloggy** · 12th November 2009, 16:36

Be careful how you vote. It won't be just us (bikers) looking at this website and these polls.
If too many vote 100% increase (double what you are paying now) then this could be seen as an acceptable compromise by ACC and the government.
The only acceptable increase is zero or negative.

**Laxi** · 12th November 2009, 16:39

Originally Posted by Cloggy

Be careful how you vote. It won't be just us (bikers) looking at this website and these polls.
If too many vote 100% increase (double what you are paying now) then this could be seen as an acceptable compromise by ACC and the government.
The only acceptable increase is zero or negative.

hit the nail on the head

**scissorhands** · 12th November 2009, 17:07

Regarding ACC levies, anything of substance by those in the fore should not be discussed here, online, over the phone...And others too need to think before they open their gob

**325rocket** · 12th November 2009, 18:14

heres what is going to happen ...

zero increase and a statement that goes something like ...

"after reviewing the proposed increase we have taken all concerns into account and will not increase the ACC levy on road registered motorcycles. however New Zealand can not afford to carry the continued loss due to motorbike accidents. Due to this we have no choice but to open ACC up to competition from the private sector."

We are doing exactly what they expect / want us to do but what other options do we have.