Screw peaceful non-disruptive protest: Let's Cause Mayhem!

[idleidolidyll]

Just my opinions on these.... if deleted out of the original post, then they "appear" to be OK....[*]Laxi:

I'm for doing laps of MPs houses starting at say 11 and go until 5, louder the pipes the better.

Careful about noisy exhausts. Subjective test could be used to green sticker bikes out of it....as well as a fine and demerits.

Indian Tiger:
Slap on some L plates to the back of your bike and ride down the motorways at 69 kmph using all the lanes. One or two bikes with learner lisences in the midst of us and we're teaching them how to ride "legally".

Good....., but dangerous - impatient people pushing through causing accidents/harm to riders?

Also holding up traffic/hindering traffic flows on highways can be cause for a ticket...?

COLOR=Red]DangerousBastard:[/COLOR]
edit: you might position a bunch of bikers outside the exit gates and all waggle a finger at him.

Possibly arrested for Disorderly behaviour.

Sidewinder:
is this one legal?
a burn out with a pocket bike on the roof of acc in te rapa hamilton, but my work lader wasnt big enough lol

If its a carpark, its a road.... sustained loss of traction, bike impounded, you arrested, loss of licence.

Just some thoughts.....

Thank you Patrick: that's awesome help and much appreciated

[idleidolidyll]

1/2 a dozen blokes is (despite what you think) is hardly news worthy.

Pollies gets this from all sorts of groups all the time.

Water of a ducks back - You arnt being disrespected - you are simply just not worth acknowledging.

A dozen and more blokes AND gals thanks and any time a bunch of demonstartors disrupt the PM's speech; it is noteworthy.

The point of course is that John Key will certainly have been pissed off. We stepped up a notch on the weekend with a number of protests and we will continue to step things up by notches until they start talking seriously.

If you have better ideas; please offer them

[idleidolidyll]

Meeting at 7pm on, Finn McCools, Manukau City for those interested in discussing action in the next few weeks.
Sorry, can't make it a central city meet; I'm leaving at 5am next day for Hawkes Bay and can't stray far from home.

I'll be in Wellington Thursday and probably Friday night for those in Wellington and Kapiti: any suggestions for a meeting place?

[rob 0]

so you phone the local landscape suplies as nicks secatary
tell them to deliver 10 tons of bullshit to nick's house
drop it in the driveway at midday, as there is a working bee that evening
and send the invoice direct to his office

[idleidolidyll]

I like that idea Rob but to be honest I reckon Nick LIKES bullshit

[rob 0]

or,,,

follow the links, and setup outside the party functions
a sausage sizzle to raise funds for disabled children
sell sauages to the nats and their suporters
but dont tell them about the laxitives in the sausages

hey presto !! instant bullshit!

[caseye]

You want More! BS, thats incredulous.LOL Love the laxi sausages idea.

[Swoop]

Indian Tiger:
Slap on some L plates to the back of your bike and ride down the motorways at 69 kmph using all the lanes. One or two bikes with learner lisences in the midst of us and we're teaching them how to ride "legally".

Fairly sure that a rider, who has a full licence, will be committing an offence if they put L plates on their bike.

[Cr1MiNaL]

Fairly sure that a rider, who has a full licence, will be committing an offence if they put L plates on their bike.

Negative. The road code does not say that this cannot be done. Maybe a kb cop can confirm this?

[R6_kid:Me]

Negative. The road code does not say that this cannot be done. Maybe a kb cop can confirm this?

I'm pretty sure you get pulled up if you leave them up in a car. Unless you were riding a bike under 250cc that belonged to a learner you'd have a hard time explaining to the cop why you had an L plate on a 250cc+ bike with a person with their full license riding.

[peasea]

I'm pretty sure you get pulled up if you leave them up in a car. Unless you were riding a bike under 250cc that belonged to a learner you'd have a hard time explaining to the cop why you had an L plate on a 250cc+ bike with a person with their full license riding.

Just preten' you cun spik Engrish, den offisher go home, Charee.

[Swoop]

Negative. The road code does not say that this cannot be done. Maybe a kb cop can confirm this?

I believe it was Ixion that posted the regulation here, some time back. A rider with a full licence cannot display an L plate.
BTW. The Road Code is only a guide. It is a lay-persons interpretation of the Act that Parliament passed.


Here ya go.
Land Transport (Driver Licensing) Rule 1999 (SR 1999/100) (as at 01 April 2009).
Prohibition on display of L plate except in appropriate circumstances
A person must not drive, on a road, a motor vehicle that displays an L plate as specified in clause 66 unless that person—

(a) Holds a learner licence of the class that relates to that vehicle in accordance with Schedule 3; or

(b) Immediately prior to driving has been, or is about to be, accompanying the person in paragraph (a) in accordance with clause 16(1)(a); or

(c) Holds a driving instructor or testing officer endorsement and is driving a vehicle used for purposes connected with that endorsement.

[Cr1MiNaL]

I believe it was Ixion that posted the regulation here, some time back. A rider with a full licence cannot display an L plate.
BTW. The Road Code is only a guide. It is a lay-persons interpretation of the Act that Parliament passed.


Here ya go.
Land Transport (Driver Licensing) Rule 1999 (SR 1999/100) (as at 01 April 2009).
Prohibition on display of L plate except in appropriate circumstances
A person must not drive, on a road, a motor vehicle that displays an L plate as specified in clause 66 unless that person—

(a) Holds a learner licence of the class that relates to that vehicle in accordance with Schedule 3; or

(b) Immediately prior to driving has been, or is about to be, accompanying the person in paragraph (a) in accordance with clause 16(1)(a); or

(c) Holds a driving instructor or testing officer endorsement and is driving a vehicle used for purposes connected with that endorsement.

So that means as long as you are teaching a learner to ride, you may display an L plate. Dunnit?

[Swoop]

So that means as long as you are teaching a learner to ride, you may display an L plate. Dunnit?

Clause 16(1)(a)

(a) The holder must not drive the vehicle (unless driving a motorcycle, moped, or an all-terrain vehicle) unless the holder is accompanied in the vehicle by a person who—
(i) Holds, and has held for at least 2 years, a full licence of a class that authorises that person to drive that vehicle; and
(ii) Is in charge of the vehicle; and
(iii) Is seated in the front passenger seat or, if there is no front passenger seat available, is seated as close as is practicable to the driver; and


Hmm. It seems as if the lawmakers are trying to have the "accompanying driver" (who should be in the vehicle with the learner), allowed to also display an L plate on their bike. Since a learner is prohibited from carrying a pillion passenger, perhaps this is their way out?
You could be correct on this call.
A rider with a full licence is not allowed to display an L-plate until becoming the "other 50% of a car" and being in the supervisorial role of the learner.
I have never seen a testing officer's bike displaying an L.

Remember IANAL.

[Cr1MiNaL]

Clause 16(1)(a)

(a) The holder must not drive the vehicle (unless driving a motorcycle, moped, or an all-terrain vehicle) unless the holder is accompanied in the vehicle by a person who—
(i) Holds, and has held for at least 2 years, a full licence of a class that authorises that person to drive that vehicle; and
(ii) Is in charge of the vehicle; and
(iii) Is seated in the front passenger seat or, if there is no front passenger seat available, is seated as close as is practicable to the driver; and


Hmm. It seems as if the lawmakers are trying to have the "accompanying driver" (who should be in the vehicle with the learner), allowed to also display an L plate on their bike. Since a learner is prohibited from carrying a pillion passenger, perhaps this is their way out?
You could be correct on this call.
A rider with a full licence is not allowed to display an L-plate until becoming the "other 50% of a car" and being in the supervisorial role of the learner.
I have never seen a testing officer's bike displaying an L.

Remember IANAL.

It says unlesss driving a motorcycle... which I think exempts motorcycles from the entire Clause 16(1)(a). So the law for motorcycles should be read without that clause. Which according to my understanding allows any bike to display an L plate while instructing another learner rider who holds a valid learners lisence and displays L plates. R1 with L plate = rock on!