Just lost my virginity!!!

[justsomeguy]

Name a ride we've been on where I've chucked it down the road..

At the risk of being serious for a moment and destroying my hard cultivated image as a carefree crash prone teenager, I think what Lee Rusty said does have currency.

Rather than looking at it as a "oh well, there was diesel / gravel / a gumboot on the road, it was an external factor, can't be helped." We need to consider what role our observation and riding skills play in keeping us safe.

Mentally it sure feels better being able to put the blame on someone else, but blame doesn't fix fairings or broken bones.

Hmmmmmmmmm........

There was this one time at band camp...... oh well

Sure riding skills definitely play a big point as do observation skills, but sometimes you need to look for things you don't know to look for that's where experience and knowledge come into play. Both of which I'm trying hard to gain. The last thing any of us want to do is crash and deal with the consequences, especially on our finances.

It is very important consider what role our observation and riding skills play in keeping us safe.

What is equally important is to treat it as a learning experience and not as a great chance to cry over spilt milk.

After my fall and seeing zapf do the same a few feet infront of me I have learned a ton of info.

[Biff]

Glad your ok mate.
Now send your stained underpants to the usual address in order to get them framed.

[FROSTY:Me]

Hmmmmmmmmm........

There was this one time at band camp...... oh well

Sure riding skills definitely play a big point as do observation skills, but sometimes you need to look for things you don't know to look for that's where experience and knowledge come into play. Both of which I'm trying hard to gain. The last thing any of us want to do is crash and deal with the consequences, especially on our finances.

It is very important consider what role our observation and riding skills play in keeping us safe.

What is equally important is to treat it as a learning experience and not as a great chance to cry over spilt milk.

After my fall and seeing zapf do the same a few feet infront of me I have learned a ton of info.

Im glad ya aint too badly banged up dude.
The experience thing--yep ya just dont know when ya gonnna need it aye?

[erik]

Really?? Ranzer what were the details???

The ones I know of...

He said he was coming up to a roundabout in the wet and braked a bit too hard and the front let go.

The other one was in the dry, coming back along Old North road. He was behind me and we were coming up to the one-way bridge. I slowed down a bit too much because I wasn't sure if we had right of way or not , and he had to brake hard-ish and it basically let go and fell over.

Both were at low speed with not much damage done, just the cracks in the fairings probably grew a bit bigger...

I've noticed the front brakes on zzr's are pretty good, better than the ones on the Zeal anyway. I wonder if maybe the fairly high amount of rake on the forks might make the front wheel more prone to skidding?
I dunno :spudwhat: maybe it's just the combination of good front brakes and narrow front tyres? Or just two unlucky zzr riders?

I've gotta say I was surprised that time when you stopped quick on your drive and the front wheel skidded a bit. Sure the tyres were cold, but it was in the dry and the drive didn't look slippery or anything.

[justsomeguy]

Glad your ok mate.
Now send your stained underpants to the usual address in order to get them framed.

Your bike says: Blackbird down??? What happened???

No time for me to soil my underpants. By the time I gathered what was happening. I was standing up looking at my bike deep in a gutter instead of under me

[justsomeguy]

The ones I know of...

He said he was coming up to a roundabout in the wet and braked a bit too hard and the front let go.

The other one was in the dry, coming back along Old North road. He was behind me and we were coming up to the one-way bridge. I slowed down a bit too much because I wasn't sure if we had right of way or not , and he had to brake hard-ish and it basically let go and fell over.

Both were at low speed with not much damage done, just the cracks in the fairings probably grew a bit bigger...

I've noticed the front brakes on zzr's are pretty good, better than the ones on the Zeal anyway. I wonder if maybe the fairly high amount of rake on the forks might make the front wheel more prone to skidding?
I dunno :spudwhat: maybe it's just the combination of good front brakes and narrow front tyres? Or just two unlucky zzr riders?

I've gotta say I was surprised that time when you stopped quick on your drive and the front wheel skidded a bit. Sure the tyres were cold, but it was in the dry and the drive didn't look slippery or anything.

The reason they skidded was cos I applied the brakes rather roughly, not smoothly but just jammed them. On Saturday I was being much more smoother....... but it fell all the same......

[justsomeguy]

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[Two Smoker]

Glad your ok mate and sounds like the bike is fine...

[cammo]

The ones I know of...

He said he was coming up to a roundabout in the wet and braked a bit too hard and the front let go.

The other one was in the dry, coming back along Old North road. He was behind me and we were coming up to the one-way bridge. I slowed down a bit too much because I wasn't sure if we had right of way or not , and he had to brake hard-ish and it basically let go and fell over.

Both were at low speed with not much damage done, just the cracks in the fairings probably grew a bit bigger...

I've noticed the front brakes on zzr's are pretty good, better than the ones on the Zeal anyway. I wonder if maybe the fairly high amount of rake on the forks might make the front wheel more prone to skidding?
I dunno :spudwhat: maybe it's just the combination of good front brakes and narrow front tyres? Or just two unlucky zzr riders?

I've gotta say I was surprised that time when you stopped quick on your drive and the front wheel skidded a bit. Sure the tyres were cold, but it was in the dry and the drive didn't look slippery or anything.

i managed to lock my front brack down a damp hill, luckily i kept my bike standing up. gave me a good fright thought. but then in saying that ive had to aggresivly slam on the breaks and it didnt lock the front, so i guesss their not too bad...

[notme]

Hey dude...i must say i like your attitude! I am a terminal optimist too - why worry about wee things like a slightly banged up bike when there are far better things to be doing, and far worse things that could have happenned?

Re your repairs - Chuck at Anything Plastic in East Tamaki did an awesome job for me when i ducked up my Kwaka.... I had a group of similar priced quotes but he inspired the confidence to let him tackle the repairs, and well..... pics are in this thread, decide for yourself :-) http://www.kiwibiker.co.nz/forums/sh...highlight=duck

[Two Smoker]

Re your repairs - Chuck at Anything Plastic in East Tamaki did an awesome job for me when i ducked up my Kwaka.... I had a group of similar priced quotes but he inspired the confidence to let him tackle the repairs, and well..... pics are in this thread, decide for yourself :-) http://www.kiwibiker.co.nz/forums/sh...highlight=duck

Chuck at Anything plastic is THE MAN!!!

[justsomeguy]

Hey dude...i must say i like your attitude! I am a terminal optimist too - why worry about wee things like a slightly banged up bike when there are far better things to be doing, and far worse things that could have happenned?

YOU da man Allun good to meet another like minded person...... "Terminal Optimist" ............. muhahahahahahaa

the FIRST thing i did on instinct was look what was behind me....I really DON'T need to survive a bin just to be taken out by a following truck!

Actually that was what was on my mind too as I was rolling and rolling and rolling and rolling and rolling and rolling (fucking enough already ) I just wanted to stop get up and get the hell off the road......

Luckily for me thank God I could. I didn't stop to even check if anything was broken, just got up and hooffed it........

[justsomeguy]

Thanks guys I'm off to anything plastics first thing tomorrow morning.

6B Newark Pl
East Tamaki

Got Nooooo money so will only be going in for a chat!!

[Zapf]

Who told you that???? It is one of the most difficult colours to notice. Orange is the easiest colour followed by yellow and flourescent green, etc.

Silver is one of the harder colours to see, was watching a program on crashes, they reckon that's why James Dean was killed cos the truck driver didn't see his car.......

They also compiled a list of car accidents, and silver cars have a lower ratio of accidents proportionally. As there are more silver cars on the road...

[250learna]

They also compiled a list of car accidents, and silver cars have a lower ratio of accidents proportionally. As there are more silver cars on the road...

they are also much harder to see as they blend in with the road kinda easily... bright colour is always a better choice if you want others to see you comming, oh and headlights do a bit!

Good to see you handling the *edit* slide so well, im still waiting for my time and i hope it never comes!