Next protest idea - lets get creative!

[kevie]

I thought we'd just head into the CBD one working morning and park one bike in each pay and display car park, then sit in the cafes having a coffee while watching the chaos ensue.

Reminds me of a Friday night in 1970 when the police were harrassing us teens (yeh I was a teenager once) about parking 4-6 bikes per parking place on the main street of Wanganui ....saying one vehicle park park per meter payment.... we tried to convince them what would happen if we did that, taking up multiple car parks with bikes... they said "the law is the law" so the following week we rounded up any and every bike we could and rode round and round the block and each time a car vacated a park a bike took it, payed the meter and sat there, we took up a whole block and got abused by shop owners, shoppers and the police ( who had to admit while we were being a pain in the perverbial we actually werent breaking any laws therefore while the meter was payed they couldnt move up along)... they conceded our point and after that we were allowed to park multiple bikes in a parking spot.

Sometimes you just have to make a point eh LOL

[mashman]

You could gather en masse, every morning in Auckland and monopolate the lanes in both directions (with a little coordination) on a toll road. Know where your payment is and stop, unzip etc... take out your payment and pay the guy. If you get into a discussion along the lines of "but bikes go for free", then do the courteous thing and explain IN FULL why you feel you need to pay your way... nothing illegal about that, but it may well cost you $1 per day!!!

[FastBikeGear]

Do Not Bite the hand that Feeds, and as far as this goes for us it is the hand of Joe and Jane Public we must not bite.
My observations of the New Zealand public is that it is a fickel creature, and very easily bored of a subject.
There is alot that still can be done to shine the positive light in our corner, ie making sure that Motorcycle fund raising events get media attention, Country School Trail rides, HOG Toy Runs, Ulysses West Pac helicopter charity rides, WIMA pink ribbon rides, etc.
yes I know none of this is Storm the Fortress type stuff, but we need to maintain our position of being the GOOD GUYs in this Battle, if we PISS Joe and Jane Public off then we become the bad guys, and then we are fucked.

OK so I think most of us agree with these sentiments and the good logic which is inescapable. Bike riding protests are fun (hey any excuse to get on the bike with some mates is always going to be fun!) but we need to make sure that they have a positive effect.

We definitley don't want to go off half cocked with half baked ideas that annoy the public.

I think what we need to be doing now is what everyone is doing! Writing editors to the editor, getting heard on the radio (Well done Les and the Profesor and everyone else)....submitting comments on other forums, etc

Let use this thread to bounce around other 'out of the box' ideas - someone is going to come up with a great idea for when we need it.

[Ender EnZed]

I agree with everything but this

It would be quite easy to disrupt rail services. Then rail patrons would take their cars instead, enabling us to point out the benefits of motorcycles .

Please do not fuck with the trains. They might be an easy target but in Wellington at least we already know very well what happens when there is a genuine problem with the line. A very small percentage take the car, the rest are hours late to work after finding a bus and many just don't make it. It is very difficult to fit a car into Wellington anywhere very precise if it's not what you do everyday.

It would piss people off more than burning all the cafes in Mission Bay.

[Dodgyiti]

I'm all for a presence at every National Party meeting, public or otherwise. Not disruption but a presence to say- these are voters, and their not happy. I will be going to Nick Smith's meeting at the yacht club. I don't think I will even go inside, but I will be there on my bike to show I'm a biker and I'm a voter and I'm not happy.

[Pixie]

You could gather en masse, every morning in Auckland and monopolate the lanes in both directions (with a little coordination) on a toll road. Know where your payment is and stop, unzip etc... take out your payment and pay the guy. If you get into a discussion along the lines of "but bikes go for free", then do the courteous thing and explain IN FULL why you feel you need to pay your way... nothing illegal about that, but it may well cost you $1 per day!!!

The only cash toll road I know of is in Tauranga and it wouldn't work there because BOPpers are too tight to pay to use it

[mashman]

The only cash toll road I know of is in Tauranga and it wouldn't work there because BOPpers are too tight to pay to use it

Bugga... ok let's see if plan B is of any use. Why not use the give way to traffic turning in from the right rule to halt traffic. Estimate the numbers of bikes, find yourself a car dense piece of road, locate a suitable right turn for maximum disruption and just wait until the queue of bikes ends... funny if you can pick a decent enough piece of road that would allow a couple of hundred bikes ride around continuously, a sort of catch 22...

[KeyboardRider]

G’Day all,
My two cents:
As written in my past posts, and as I conclude from exactly the same campaign run in Israel that we should do the following:
Change our aim to a broader aim and support and lead the campaign for a flat rate for all road users (or, tax on petrol which seems to be the fairest. One just needs to find out how much petrol was sold during the last year, and how much ACC claims have been paid in order to see some realistic figures).

Why should we do this?
1. Because we (as motorcyclists) are an organized and aware crowd. We already invest time, efforts, energy, logistics, and manpower in this campaign and already have it going, so we better do it for something most of the public will support.

2. Because ACC levy on motorists was/ is/ should be a social law (same as the ACC levy you pay as taxes), regardless of risk level any motorist represents.

3. If we have all the cagers with us, we have a few magnitudes larger support, and this is something politicians cannot ignore.

How should we start?
1. The most effective and cheap way nowadays is to use the Internet. Nobody has to go out and protest in early stages, just click a button. As we have on board some creative folks, pick some brains that can promote this campaign for all motorists (i.e. “forget your rego, you’ll pay just $30 for it. From tomorrow you just have to pay ¢2 extra per litre instead”).

2. Prepare a few PowerPoint slides that look like a commercial and that “sell” this message. Later we can go for Sticker designs (“Reduce your rego to nil, just ask me how!”, “you don’t need to pay two rego’s if you have two cars!” etc.), T-Shirts and banner designs that will also help to expose this idea to more motorists.

3. Create a website for that campaign that explains the reasons and the outcomes, and where one can download and print propaganda material, buy this material, and most important - sign an electronic petition.

4. Put the PowerPoints with a link to the site on YouTube and start to circulate a promotional mail around (start by that that each biker sends this mail to his mailing list, and they in turn send it on).

5. In a few weeks we will be able to see where we go in terms of numbers, as the hit numbers on YouTube will indicate the exposure rate.

What then?
1. Once this number reaches a few hundreds of thousands, somebody might wake up in the Beehive. Don’t worry, when politicians smell a large crowd, they will try to attract their attention.

2. Now, once we have such a support, we can start a “dialog” with the politicians through that website (i.e. send them questions, post their answers on the website – turn these into five to ten seconds long PowerPoints which terminate with “Would you like to be elected again after F@$%ing your voters?”, and post them back on YouTube).

These are just my thoughts. If I can assist, I’ll be happy to do so,

Keyboard Rider

[idleidolidyll]

About a dozen bikes protested John Key in Whangamata today.

At one point his speech was drowned out by revving motorcycles.

http://www.kiwibiker.co.nz/forums/sh...post1129527365

The media were there but pretended we don't exist again: no respect from either TV3 or TVNZ