DOM POST says - bikers should pay

[Laxi]

It seems the Dominion Post is owned or sponsored by the government. Their Journalists are probably to scared to bite the hand that feeds them. What a crap 2nd rate newspaper anyway.

you have to wonder they have been "unsuportive" from the start to say the least, one sided editing & havn't seen any actual comparisons in ACC stats reported in the dom post, they seem to just take nick the pricks word for it

[cheshirecat]

Here is link

Oh Japanese study of why we are more intelligent for riding

[cheshirecat]

you have to wonder they have been "unsuportive" from the start to say the least, one sided editing & havn't seen any actual comparisons in ACC stats reported in the dom post, they seem to just take nick the pricks word for it

I met a senior staff member once and even he admited the paper wasn't up to much
it's really jounaled by 12 year olds

[Okey Dokey]

you have to wonder they have been "unsuportive" from the start to say the least, one sided editing & havn't seen any actual comparisons in ACC stats reported in the dom post, they seem to just take nick the pricks word for it

It can be quite discouraging, can't it? Everything he says seems to get printed, yet opposing views struggle to be heard.

[Babelfish]

I agree that everyone is entitled to their opinion...unless they're a fucktard, looking to fill up a bit of paper with drivel, which this was. No new information, no insightful comment, just rambling without sifting through the options...like Mr Smith did.

Just another example of a paper happy to print shite.

[MSTRS:Me]

Send a letter. I have...

Editorial on motorcycle levies

Is it possible for the editor to have an original thought? Yes. It is possible. Is it likely? No.
Is it possible for an editor, or journalist, to actually do some research, instead of parroting the lies and spin coming from the Dishonourable Nick? Yes. It is possible. Is it likely. It would seem not.
I am disgusted that, once again, the facts are being ignored. Apart from the inane repeating of Nick's spin, it seems that all we get to see or hear in the media is that 'motorcyclists are upset'. We are much more than that. We have done the research that proves the lies. We want the public to be given the opportunity to see all the facts for themselves. NZ needs to know what is really going on. Because they are next

[mikeey01]

I've read some rubbish in my time, this I put in that pile, it's complete crap.

I wonder if it was written by a ten year old or someone whom they actually pay?

[mikeey01]

Send a letter. I have...

Ditto

There is enough mis-information, smoke screens, general rubbish and bad articles out there by others already without and to be honest nothing short of rubbish journalism like this!

If you honestly want to comment on something like this then may I suggest one researches before they write?

Take a look at the bigger picture, back off from the current focus on biker levies and look at it all again, now this story up till now has been left un-told.
National and ACT makes no secret it wants to privatise ACC, National is for business and all opportunities for.
So how does one create that want and desire, a feeling perhaps that ACC should be privatised? increase levies? hike employer premiums? It's got to start somewhere.

Up till now not one of the figures presented add up, the maths does not make sense, ACC's own figures presented on the web do not add up, the reasons and reasoning behind it may well do. Still ACC philosophy is no fault, or are we on our way back to user pays again?

Young man, get real, get a life and do your job properly. The standard of modern journalism these days leaves me wanting for a degree of un-biased fact based not copy and paste rubbish.

[Okey Dokey]

Well done MSTRS. I'm a bit tired of the "angry biker" tag, too. What I feel is righteous indignation!

[Pixie]

Quote :"Some biker groups have argued that, if their premiums are risk-rated, so should be those of others who engage in risky activity, such as mountain climbers, rugby players and netballers. But there is a difference. Mountain climbers and sportspeople are engaging in activities that improve the general fitness of the population and provide a health benefit that offsets the cost of broken bones. Riding a motorbike is not an inherently healthy activity."


Bike Magazine commissioned a physiologist to measure the energy expenditure of a person riding a motorcycle.
Using a CO2 baseline and a heart rate monitor,the following conclusions were arrived at:
A normal commute type ride equates to a brisk walk.
Anything more "enthusiastic" requires proportionally greater exertion.
So it does improve the general fitness of the participant.

Someone please include this any letter to the Editor of the Dom you may submit.

[Okey Dokey]

Great work, Pixie!

[Conquiztador]

They want us to get angry? Perhaps it is what we should do...

[FROSTY:Me]

ACC Statistics

I do NOT know if this is 100% True? Maybe some one on here does

I have been told, that any time some one has an ACC claim, that becomes 1 statistic, then when that same person needs more medical or finacuall help, it turns into the 2nd statistic, and so on and so on, IS that why the statistics have grown so much in the last 9 years?

I can tell you for a FACT when I crashed atTaupo I was entered into 3 SEPERATE hospital data bases as a bike accident. First Taupo then Middlemore then North shore.
That was a reflection of the idiocy of the hospital system

[FROSTY:Me]

Well done MSTRS. I'm a bit tired of the "angry biker" tag, too. What I feel is righteous indignation!

NO NO NO--Not angry biker--angry BIKIE. its so much more nasty doncha see

[vifferman]

According to a physiotherapist I was going to for several months for a non-motorcycling injury, motorcycling is more healthy than driving a car, and he recommended that patients with back injuries continued to ride rather than drive as the posture is generally better, and you use more muscles than sitting in your motorised armchair. This same physio is now an advisor (or manager, or somesuch) for ACC. He is (or at least, was) a biker himself.