Breaking the rear free?

[st00ji]

so, theres this corner that i go through every day. its a greater than 90 degrees right hander away from a set of lights, which i almost always start from a splitting position. im in the habit of giving it a bit of poke off the line, so im well clear of the cages behind me. today i drifted to the outside of the two lanes of cars (i usually choose my lane based on which side i think is going to be slower to get round the corner) and the rear tyre let go on me. it all happened pretty fast, and only briefly - didnt even have time to get a fright, just a quick moment of 'is this the start of a lowside' and in fact as the bike regained traction and stood up i found myself wondering if it had looked cool

as mentioned i come through this corner every day, so maybe i've just been getting more and more confident every time without noticing... but i didnt feel like i was pushing it at all. im pretty sure i didnt run out of tyre either, had a touch of boot on the ground a couple of times and still got a bit of chicken strip left. i did think i might have been leaning forward a little more than usual, which may have lifted just enough weight off the back? the roads were relatively dry, and looked clean enough - though to be fair i wasnt paying particular attention.

so i guess what im wondering is, what kinds of situations can cause this to happen? in terms of cornering technique and body position etc - wondering what i might have done wrong basically.

cheers!

[Katman]

and in fact as the bike regained traction and stood up i found myself wondering if it had looked cool

Grow a fuckin' brain.

[st00ji]

thanks for the constructive reply! possession of a brain does not automatically enable knowledge though?

[sharky]

Something on the road would be my guess.

[Squid69]

so, theres this corner that i go through every day. its a greater than 90 degrees right hander away from a set of lights, which i almost always start from a splitting position. im in the habit of giving it a bit of poke off the line, so im well clear of the cages behind me. today i drifted to the outside of the two lanes of cars (i usually choose my lane based on which side i think is going to be slower to get round the corner) and the rear tyre let go on me. it all happened pretty fast, and only briefly - didnt even have time to get a fright, just a quick moment of 'is this the start of a lowside' and in fact as the bike regained traction and stood up i found myself wondering if it had looked cool

as mentioned i come through this corner every day, so maybe i've just been getting more and more confident every time without noticing... but i didnt feel like i was pushing it at all. im pretty sure i didnt run out of tyre either, had a touch of boot on the ground a couple of times and still got a bit of chicken strip left. i did think i might have been leaning forward a little more than usual, which may have lifted just enough weight off the back? the roads were relatively dry, and looked clean enough - though to be fair i wasnt paying particular attention.

so i guess what im wondering is, what kinds of situations can cause this to happen? in terms of cornering technique and body position etc - wondering what i might have done wrong basically.

cheers!

03) Put on your R1 spec sandles

09) Stick your toes into the bike.
P10) Put your shoulder into the corner.
13) Give it some stick





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[vifferman]

Outside of the lanes? My guess would be that because people tend to cut corners, the road (despite it looking clean) had dust'n'dirt'n'crap on it. Doesn't take much to break traction, especially combined with acceleration.

[Squiggles]

though to be fair i wasnt paying particular attention.

Start paying attention

[st00ji]

sorry i think i phrased that badly - i meant the outer of the two lanes, but in the right hand tyre track or thereabouts in that lane.

[st00ji]

Grow a fuckin' brain.

nice edit there, it does add some clarity to your otherwise pointless post. i did notice you left out the bash emoticon that was in my original post, with which i was trying to denote the fact that i was not particularly proud of this thought / realized that it was inappropriate

[st00ji]

Start paying attention

yeah fair call. i do scan the road surface ahead, i guess what i mean is i wasnt paying any more attention than usual (which is not zero)

i dont believe there was anything on the road however

[Flip]

Probably overloaded the available traction on the rear tyre. Cornering plus acceleration forces being greater than the friction on the road.

Apply power as you are exiting the corner rather than in it should do the trick.

[paddy]

Grow a fuckin' brain.

That's a bit harsh. What did he do to warrant that?

[ital916]

Im guessing it was some crap on the road, I doubt the power of your bike caused the rear to spin or break traction, that or you had your foot on the rear brake and locked it.

Just ride more cautiously around town where there is a build up of crap on the corners.

Oh and though katman is a little blunt in delivery, his messages always have the right heart behind em. So grow a fuckin brain mate, be more sensible and you will live long and enjoy motorcycling

[st00ji]

Probably overloaded the available traction on the rear tyre. Cornering plus acceleration forces being greater than the friction on the road.

Apply power as you are exiting the corner rather than in it should do the trick.

yeah, i guess the reason im posting is because it has not happened before, so im wondering what i unwittingly did differently this time around. like i said i certainly didnt feel like i was being particularly aggressive about it, or at least no more aggressive than usual. which is not super. hopefully that makes sense

[st00ji]

Im guessing it was some crap on the road, I doubt the power of your bike caused the rear to spin or break traction, that or you had your foot on the rear brake and locked it.

Just ride more cautiously around town where there is a build up of crap on the corners.

Oh and though katman is a little blunt in delivery, his messages always have the right heart behind em. So grow a fuckin brain mate, be more sensible and you will live long and enjoy motorcycling

yeah trust me i appreciate that, i really dont feel like i was being un-sensible - and i wouldnt / dont mind being told to grow a fuckin brain, but it would be nice to hear something a bit more informative to go with it. i was a little surprised actually because although i expected damnation from katman if he happened to post, he normally has a bit more to say too. perhaps all the telling off has worn him down?