Surely this is not legal - shame on the cops

[scissorhands]

Conviction or not doesnt mean guilty. She was on her way to operating a plane full of people.

What should a good cop do?

I dont want my private info available but it is. Its super boring, so i dont really care as long as I can get pissed and forget it sometimes. Since a baby, caesar always has had my arse and prolly always will

[caseye]

Conviction or not doesnt mean guilty. She was on her way to operating a plane full of people.

What should a good cop do?

I dont want my private info available but it is. Its super boring, so i dont really care as long as I can get pissed and forget it sometimes. Since a baby, caesar always has had my arse and prolly always will

A good cop?
Well it wasn't the officer who processed her that told Air New Zealand that one of it's Air Hostesses had recently been caught DIC.
The decision to tell them had to have been made by a ranking officer.
Why, that decision was made just 2 weeks after she had been caught, not After she had been through the court system and proved guilty or Not Guilty, I'll never know.
Her innocence as all of our innocences are supposed to be, is, Innocent until proven guilty.
Not told on by Police before her trial and then losing her job.
That is plain wrong, it's cost her her job, her carer in the flight attendant industry and any credability she may have once had.
I can't beleive that we are having this discussion, the Police of all institutions should never be telling employers anything of their employees business unless it relates directly to thier being found guilty of a crime.
Can the Prosecution in a court case tell the jury of a defendants previous convictions?
No they can't!
How is it then that the Police have suddenly become God and been able to do something as basically wrong as this???
I'm shocked and dismayed at their attitude to this situation.
Course as for anyone else, I'm going purely on what I've read, seen and heard.

[scissorhands]

I feel a sense of timelessness around the arguement of: the state, big brother, the man, the establishment. I mean, i know its fucked, but thats how we are? In the future................Sometimes you just gotta roll with the punches. Risking the lives of innocent people is a police matter worthy of intervention. Better to er on the side of caution no?

I imagine she was accessed on character and drinking around work and found lacking?

[pete376403]

Apart from the little mime act at the beginng of the flight, and handing out the boiled sweets at the end, what do the hosties *really* do that affects your safety during the flight? Isn't it the guys up the front who do the driving?

[LBD]

Apart from the little mime act at the beginng of the flight, and handing out the boiled sweets at the end, what do the hosties *really* do that affects your safety during the flight? Isn't it the guys up the front who do the driving?

Its more than a little mime, its a serious presentation aimed at convincing the passengers that they have a realistic chance of surviving a 700 kph dive into the ocean...Tuis anyone?

[scumdog]

Apart from the little mime act at the beginng of the flight, and handing out the boiled sweets at the end, what do the hosties *really* do that affects your safety during the flight? Isn't it the guys up the front who do the driving?

IF the guys up front screw-up and IF you survive you might just need said hostie to aid your egress from the now defunct and non-flying ex-mode of transport...

[McJim]

Fine, losing her job is OTT, but if the cops hadn't told her employer, she would have gone to work anyway.

Beef should be with Air New Zealand, not the cops for informing them.

Nah, she blew over the limit and went home, called in sick. Then worked a further 5 months without incident. Some officious wee bastard then pipes up "Oi, Air NZ, one of your employees lost their licence coz they was pissed!"
Air NZ "Oh yeah? Who was that then?"
"Miss X"
"Ah ,she's a really good employee with an unblemished record. Lets show the country what a bunch of officious fuckwits we are and sack her!"
"Yayeee!"
"Yayeeee!"
Officious fuckwits all together now "YAYEEEEE!"

[pete376403]

IF the guys up front screw-up and IF you survive you might just need said hostie to aid your egress from the now defunct and non-flying ex-mode of transport...

not forgetting IF the hosties survive as well.
When I fly I really do make a note of the nearest exit. I also try and book seats at the back.

[scissorhands]

In the back is where the parties are usually at too, makes sense to me

Budejovicky Budvar

[Skyryder]

Police made a call prior to a conviction. How that can be justified I've yet to hear.


Skyryder

[FROSTY:Me]

OK. You're on your way to work after a hard night on the Raz, you get pulled through a checkpoint and blow well over the legal limit.

Is it safe for you to be operating a fork hoist in that condition?

Look at it from the reverse, one of your family members is killed while at work by someone driving a forkhoist still pissed from the night before. Turns out the cops did him for DIC on the way to work yet didn't inform his employer that he was unfit to work as they'd read a thread on KB saying that it shouldn't be legal for them to so. You cool with that?

Sorry big fella, I fully support them notifying an employer that someone's been done DIC on their way to work.

I think in the middle of the speil you missed the point.
She was drivin to work thinking she was sober.
Turns out she wasn't. so she WENT HOME.
Or in other words she did the socially responsible thing.
Had the cops phoned her employer straight away I get it -she's in a position where she has to potentially make life or death decisions. They diddn't-it was well after it was a safety to the public issue they contact her employer. To me thats wrong

[scissorhands]

Police made a call prior to a conviction. How that can be justified I've yet to hear.


Skyryder

A conviction takes ages to happen, when she could have kept arriving for work pissed in the meantime. Every time risking the lives of the air passengers. So it took the cops 2 weeks to figure this out and make their decision to contact her employer. So what they didint figure this straight away. Better late than never.

They may have monitired her texts or phone and found she was partying before work on a regular basis, maybe assuming that she was still driving drunk, and arriving for work drunk.

No way she could blow 420 and not know she was drunk. No way. So apparently she lied about the 5 drinks then off to bed story. It was probably glaringly obvious she had been at it all night, and probably maintained a dishonest stance to the officer who stopped her.

I feel that the police have justification. To PROTECT and to serve

[Ixion]

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They may have monitired her texts or phone and found she was partying before work on a regular basis, maybe assuming that she was still driving drunk, and arriving for work drunk.

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Oh dear. I would REALLY hope not. That would be WAY criminal action bby the cops. You really are trying to drop them in it aren't you.

[scissorhands]

Just trying to keep it real. I was monitored, maybe still am. Hiya piggies!!!

Not worth getting all worked up when there is nothing one can do about it.

[White trash]

Nah, she blew over the limit and went home, called in sick. Then worked a further 5 months without incident. Some officious wee bastard then pipes up "Oi, Air NZ, one of your employees lost their licence coz they was pissed!"
Air NZ "Oh yeah? Who was that then?"
"Miss X"
"Ah ,she's a really good employee with an unblemished record. Lets show the country what a bunch of officious fuckwits we are and sack her!"
"Yayeee!"
"Yayeeee!"
Officious fuckwits all together now "YAYEEEEE!"

Maybe she'd been rooting a cop and gave him herpes or something? I dunno, I don't care.