Are we really getting anywhere..

[MSTRS:Me]

I have just come in on the back end of this thread so if I am a bit off topic sorry about that.....
Right anyway I was thinking, what about getting a survey done, amongst the bikers (duhh) as to who will actually end up selling their bikes because of the costs. Can we not show the govt in hard cold cash terms just how much they will be losing as apposed to how much they think they will be making, by increasing the levies? Isnt that what we are actually saying under our breath? I already know some bikers who have their bikes up for sale. Lets be honest about the whole defying the law thing - I dont really want to have to go there myself.
Ask questions and get the stats in: How many vehicles do you own? How many bikes? Will they be kept or sold? etc etc. Remembering its not only the bike levies that are going up, albeit we are shouting the loudest at the moment.
On a personal level my other half and I have been bikers for about 18 years now, but will end up selling them because its more of a recreation for us than a necessity, and we wont pay the randsom. Its gonna be a sad sad day!

Just a thought......

Who's going to be buying??
There'll be a LOT of bikes going on the track. And no doubt, a swag of new race classes...

[pzkpfw]

Right anyway I was thinking, what about getting a survey done, amongst the bikers (duhh) as to who will actually end up selling their bikes because of the costs.

Sorry:

1. If they stop riding, they stop crashing (percentage-wise). (Unless they all go to the track.) ACC don't care if people stop riding bikes.

2. Unless they sell the bike overseas, someone, presumably, will still be paying the fees for the bike. (Unless the buyers all do the "I won't pay my fees" thing.)

[Subike]

registration.
i understand that the fine for operating an unregisterd vehicle on the road at the moment is an instant fine of $200. correct? and if contested in court that fine can be increase to a max of $1000. correct?
so.
If I have a bike that has a current W.O.F. at the time of the no reg infringement, and imediatley go and register that bike on that day, then take the recepit for said registration to the nearest police infingment office.
Have I not then got a reasonable reason for the infringment notice to be revoked?
As by doing this I am complying with the letter of the law, as I then have a registered vehicle for the date of the infringment.
This has been tested in the past by myself and others and works.
Thus in the past 5 years, I have only had to register my bike twice, for three months each time, as I have only been stopped twice for this offence.
I always have a current W.O.F. on the bike for this to work.
The savings are not hard to work out.
But, on my side is the fact that I live in a rural area, I would expect that in urban areas this would not work as well. As I am nt in the face of the traffic enforcment as often, neither do I have to worry about parking wardens who have a nose for unregistered vehicles.

[PuppetMaster]

Its not just the cops though, the council parking wankers can also (and they do) hand out tickets for no rego. So not so good for us city dwellers.

[Pixie]

registration.
i understand that the fine for operating an unregisterd vehicle on the road at the moment is an instant fine of $200. correct? and if contested in court that fine can be increase to a max of $1000. correct?
so.
If I have a bike that has a current W.O.F. at the time of the no reg infringement, and imediatley go and register that bike on that day, then take the recepit for said registration to the nearest police infingment office.
Have I not then got a reasonable reason for the infringment notice to be revoked?
As by doing this I am complying with the letter of the law, as I then have a registered vehicle for the date of the infringment.
This has been tested in the past by myself and others and works.
Thus in the past 5 years, I have only had to register my bike twice, for three months each time, as I have only been stopped twice for this offence.
I always have a current W.O.F. on the bike for this to work.
The savings are not hard to work out.
But, on my side is the fact that I live in a rural area, I would expect that in urban areas this would not work as well. As I am nt in the face of the traffic enforcment as often, neither do I have to worry about parking wardens who have a nose for unregistered vehicles.

Excellent! This is what I will do.
Even the current levy is too much.
Fuck 'em