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Thread: Watering down the effect!

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    Quote Originally Posted by duckonin View Post
    He also has to listen to the public,to forsake that, is what gets Nat the boot in the end
    Why? Who says? They can do anything in 2/3 days, let alone 2/3 years.
    I didn't think!!! I experimented!!!

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    Quote Originally Posted by The Joka View Post
    I think everyone that has posted on this thread needs to take a long close look at what has happened this far and what has had the most effect...Positive & Negative.

    I am gutted I couldnt be at the meeting tonight in Manukau as I would have voiced this clearly.

    There is way way way too much action going on....


    I had nothing but positive comments about the Wellington protest and people were genuinely interested in what was going on and why we were protesting.. providing good open ended questions where you could arm them with information! They talk to someone else and our story gets heard.

    Believe me when I say I am all for creating havoc and disruption... but this vigilantly one off stuff is pretty crazy and it is pissing people off to say the least! Whangamata is one example, taking one park per bike in Mission Bay on a Sunday... they are protests but think about the message it sends and the impact it has for people! Some more thought into these ideas needs to take place... I would rather attend one protest a month that hits the right note (sends the right message) then 5 protests a month that have no point, rhyme or reason.

    My thoughts:

    Mission Bay Protest: The message I got was a group of pissed off people seeking attention... Now if this had been done on a Weekday in Auckland city it says if ACC charge me this increase, I will be bringing my car to work and will take this park.

    Whangamata: The message I got from this: WTF???? Now if 10, 20,30 or 1000 bikes showed up with banners that pointed out what was happening or asking what ACC levies boats, jet skis and surfers are paying (not sure if they are).. and didnt show mass disrespect to people passionate about boating, fishing or the marina it would have had a much better response.

    My suggestion: Stop and think about your action before doing them... think big picture stuff.

    My suggestion for the next protest is a simple one...

    On the next Fund Raising / Charity ride you go on wear a vest, fly a flag or have banners that state if ACC put up the levies on unjust figures that this charity is going to suffer! Then let your media outlets know about the charity ride... This shows bikers in a postive light and shows that if the Government do this that the wider community suffers not just the bikers. I know that I will be Flying my flag on the toy run.

    ONE LAST POINT: This is not targeted at any individual I think that what you are trying to do is great, you just need to look at the big picture a little more.
    Or you could attend the OPEN meeting of the National Party, featuring Nick (trust me I'm a bastard) Smith, topic, climate change and ACC, on Monday evening.
    That is, if your not too busy flying flags and writing your name on the back of hi vis jackets.

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    Consider me there...

    This is a good targeted and thought out protest that will hit the right note...

    Will try and get a couple of lads with me :-)

    In response to the rest of you... I REST MY CASE!

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