$400 for no "L" plate?

[scumdog]

It doesnt match my colour scheme.

If I knew the fine was four hundy I wouldnt have done it, but its my own fault for not checking. I still dont get the logic though.

So why did you NOT have the 'L' plate on?

'Safety'?
Laziness?
Ego?
??

[ManDownUnder]

So why did you NOT have the 'L' plate on?

'Safety'?
Laziness?
Ego?
??

Couldn't spell it (yeah I know it doesn't make sense.. but not bad as an in your face comeback...)

[GOONR]

So why did you NOT have the 'L' plate on?

'Safety'?
Laziness?
Ego?
??

I can tell you why I thought about taking mine off. 70kph on the open road or motorway is a quite often a death wish. I decided to keep the L and stay (mostly) away from the 100kph area's. when I do go in to a 100kph zone that is what I ride at. I figured that way I would only get belted with 1 x $400 fine but be safer.

[scumdog]

I can tell you why I thought about taking mine off. 70kph on the open road or motorway is a quite often a death wish. I decided to keep the L and stay (mostly) away from the 100kph area's. when I do go in to a 100kph zone that is what I ride at. I figured that way I would only get belted with 1 x $400 fine but be safer.

So....how many 'L' platers have actually been physically run off the road because the had an 'L' plate on their bike?

[SilentDtH]

When the officer said "Where is your lplate"?

You should have said "On the back... oh sh*t, where is it? Maybe it fell off... "

Then show him to the broken cable ties that you 'placed' on the back of your bike...

[GOONR]

So....how many 'L' platers have actually been physically run off the road because the had an 'L' plate on their bike?

That I don't know, I bet it isn't zero though. Doing 70kph on a motorway is, in my opinion, not safe.

I've almost been run on to the wrong side of the road though. There is a road near me where two lanes merge in to one after a set of lights, people try to push past you when it merges. It happens a fair bit, but I can't say if that is because I have an L or it's just because they are impatient idiots.

[Supermac Jr]

It's the same fine for all licence breaches


Exceeding 70kph on a 6L
Others too.

Not specific to bikes, or to Learners. You can get a breach of licence conditions fine on a full.

I share your pain - made a contribution earlier this year. 98km on the motorway. proudly displaying my "L"

[duckonin]

The fines are set by Parliament and the Police have no input to them.

Tha first part says it all (set by parli) just like the proposed ACC excessive!!! to say the least...

[duckonin]

So why did you NOT have the 'L' plate on?

'Safety'?
Laziness?
Ego?
??

A couple or three times along the motorway in Auck's with a L plate would have u changeing your mind SD,, or catching the bus..

[jetboy]

So why did you NOT have the 'L' plate on?

'Safety'?
Laziness?
Ego?
??

/\ as above - I rode with the L plate on and noticed a significant change in driver attitude when I took it off....I just left it off after that.

Im not disputing the fact that I should have got a fine - I'm disputing the amount of the fine.

[JimO]

where do u think the gummint gets the money to give to the bludgers

[red mermaid]

You will all be pleased to know that as of 1 December the fine will drop to $100.

Demerits will increase to 35.

[jetboy]

You will all be pleased to know that as of 1 December the fine will drop to $100.

Demerits will increase to 35.

That is actually good news, a far more logical approach.

[sleemanj]

It occurs to me, y'know, that crashing while riding outside one's licence conditions might call into question the validity of an insurance claim.

Cause all they have to do is get a hold of the police report if they attended the crash and it would show all details....

yes, but if your licence dictates that you require one, and one is absent from the vehicle, they could get you on a technicality - anything to not have to pay out.........

This old chestnut goes round and round and round and round.

The Law (Insurance Law Reform Act 1977) does not permit insurance companies to get out of a claim on a "technicality" like this. Any justification the insurance company gives must be directly attributable to the claim. The presence or otherwise of an L plate would be very hard to show to be a direct contributory factor, if you can come up with a way that it could be, I'd be quite interested to hear it.

If it wasn't for the law you can bet that insurance companies would find a way out of more or less every single claim without any hesitation. There is ALWAYS a technicality out there. The law is there to stamp out that practice and make insurance a service, not a scam.

As for the original poster, what you should have said was "oh officer, I did have one there, I guess it must have fallen off, I'm really sorry about that, I'll get that sorted out right away". But I suspect there is more to the story.

[jetboy]

As for the original poster, what you should have said was "oh officer, I did have one there, I guess it must have fallen off, I'm really sorry about that, I'll get that sorted out right away"

Tried that and failed. I was even courteous enough to point out that he was leaking oil AND fixed the problem for him.