Vehicles to avoid...

[p.dath]

I was filtering today going home along the motorway north of Mana (Welly), and was coming up to a housebus who took exception and started moving his nose across to block my path...farkin tosser...just jealous...

Any chance there was simply some obstacle on his left that he could see and you couldn't?

Most cage drivers don't actually want to push you off the road. But they need to respond to traffic and road conditions like we do.

[Blackbird]

On the southern every morning and I've got to say that of late I'm experiencing quie the opposite, car, truck and even other bikes are allowing enough room to pass safely.

When I delivered the Blackbird to its new owner, it was peak traffic on the southern motorway and I had to filter or get nowhere. I was agreeably surprised that virtually everyone was great and gave space, even the upmarket cars - no complaints at all.

[FROSTY:Me]

Guy took offence to me filtering past him in stationary traffic on Symonds St this arvo. As the traffic started to move he decided to undertake me and push me in to oncoming traffic
This sort of reaction from cagers is happening to me more frequently anyone else had this sort of problem lately?

Mon please don't take offence here but given there is a common denominator in the situation should you look at whats happening there first ?
I remember a couple of years back I used to commute the nor western car park every day. I'd very often catch up to and pass other KBers. The cagers seemed to be irritable idiots -always cutting me off etc etc.
Then one total lunatic rider said to me that I was apsolutely flying "the other day" He couldn't keep up.
Made me think about the speed I was doing and the agression I was using in my riding.
Go figure the stress levels dropped heaps when i slowwed down a bit.

[mattian]

I would always say watch your speed when filtering - I notice that cars only get wound up when surprised by filterers going too fast.

That said I did have some dick move to close a gap once (some boy racer ute - you know the type, silver crap wheels on a crap vehicle with his phone number in the back window - I assume for gay sex - I politely stopped by his window and told him he likes to fornicate with himself regularly). This is the only ever time I have experienced this though.

More often than not I now notice drivers creating a gap for me as I am moving at an acceptable speed (where they can see me and react). I always like to simply raise my fingers off the clutch to say thanks as I go past (I just think of them as bikers in cars - as this is what I now do in my car when I see bikes filtering).

Most car drivers like to help bikers in my opinion, some just plain don't think but it is very rare to find a fuckwit who purposefully obstructs bikes.

I totally agree. A wave of thanks to people who deliberatly adjust their position to make room for you goes a looooong way. they're left thinking "wow, he was a friendly biker chap" "maybe they aren't all reckless assholes trying to kill us"

[george formby]

A bit of courtesy goe's a long way. I always try & let vehicles out at junctions when I'm in slow moving traffic, filter slowly & acknowledge courtesy's that come my way. I'm may be a sad case but I believe in traffic karma & find most drivers create space to let me pass. Drivers who spear off onto the side of the road always confuse me though.

[Pixie]

Mon please don't take offence here but given there is a common denominator in the situation should you look at whats happening there first ?
I remember a couple of years back I used to commute the nor western car park every day. I'd very often catch up to and pass other KBers. The cagers seemed to be irritable idiots -always cutting me off etc etc.
Then one total lunatic rider said to me that I was apsolutely flying "the other day" He couldn't keep up.
Made me think about the speed I was doing and the agression I was using in my riding.
Go figure the stress levels dropped heaps

You have to wonder about the mentality of drivers that think increasing the danger by making dangerous manoeuvers actually helps the situation.
When it's all said and done,it comes down to puritanism and small cock syndrome.Thankfully it seems to be on the wane.

[clmintie]

I'm often stuck in near stationary traffic on the south Western about 4pm, in my work van. There are a few 'regular' filterers, I see them coming and make as much room as is safe and appreciate the little wave of the clutch hand. However there was a new one last night, I saw him/her coming in my right mirror, checked the left mirror before moving a metre to the left only to nearly squash the stupid bugger into the railing. Filtering is fine, treating cars like a road cone slalom is NOT.... Ah, I feel better now.......

I need a bike that can carry my tools and three passengers with a towbar for my MX 3 bike trailer...... Till then, I'm stuck in the van at 4pm on the South Weston, watching the lucky riders flit past.............

[hang0ver]

Fucking skiers. There's your answer!

[vifferman]

Fucking skiers. There's your answer!

Depends what they look like. My wife skis, and I'd fuck her, but not some other people I know that ski. Like my sons f'rinstance, or my wife's cousin...

I left work a little late yesterday and the traffic was backed up on the northern from north of Albania right through to WellyTown as far as I could tell. It was lanesplit or overheat (bike got hot anyway).
It was an interesting ride - had people move over for me, none try to be eejits and block me. I can't actually ever recall that happening, but I don't lanesplit very often. Two other bikers were splitting ahead of me (CBR1000RR?? and another bike) and interestingly when I swapped to split between lanes 1 and 2 instead of 2 and 3 where they were, I made a lot more progress. I think it was fewer people changing lanes. Then some guy came past doing at least 65-70 km/h faster than the traffic. That was not smart; as has been mentioned, it gives car driver a fright, particularly if they've checked their mirror then go to change lanes and don't realise there's a bike bearing down on them at high(ish) speed...

[FROSTY:Me]

You have to wonder about the mentality of drivers that think increasing the danger by making dangerous manoeuvers actually helps the situation.
When it's all said and done,it comes down to puritanism and small cock syndrome.Thankfully it seems to be on the wane.

Sorry dude I wasn't making myself clear The problem wasn't the drivers it was ME riding too fast for the situation.
I slowed down --still faster thatn the traffic and the hassles stopped.
unless you do a rush hour commute or two in a car you just have no idea just how fast bikes seem to apear.
especially if you are in a "normal" car and have a van/truck/ponsonby tractor (4wd) behind you.

[Tank]

It's nothing to do with not being seen - its to do with asshole cagers thinking they can act dangerously without consequences. ......

I've never felt the need to DO anything about it.. Just split off the next car and they are real gone.

Steve

What he said

Yeah - but 'Ol DangerousBastard lied.

http://www.kiwibiker.co.nz/forums/sh...ad.php?t=82181

[Fub@r]

Mon please don't take offence here but given there is a common denominator in the situation should you look at whats happening there first ?
I remember a couple of years back I used to commute the nor western car park every day. I'd very often catch up to and pass other KBers. The cagers seemed to be irritable idiots -always cutting me off etc etc.
Then one total lunatic rider said to me that I was apsolutely flying "the other day" He couldn't keep up.
Made me think about the speed I was doing and the agression I was using in my riding.
Go figure the stress levels dropped heaps when i slowwed down a bit.

First Situation:

Stanley Street lights fliter through the traffic to the front. Stop and wait for light to go green. Light goes green I start to move forward car behind me now accelerates through on my left hand side nearly clipping kerb and pushing me towards the other lane.

Speed, filtering etc not a factor here

Situation 2:

Grafton Bridge lights. Lights are red I filter through traffic to front of queue and line up in left hand lane in the painted green area at front of queue for push bikes. Then same as situation 1 car accelerates up my left hand side. Lanes go to merge due to parked vehicles so either I brake or he takes me out.

Speed filtering etc not a factor here

Situation 3

Nelson Offramp. Traffic at standstill, I filter along right hand shoulder beside barrier. Gap becomes too narrow so pull in front of a stationary car and wait for lights to change and traffic to move. Whilst sitting there car behind me is slowly nudging up beside me. As we move off he accelerates up my left hand side and starts to give me the squeeze against the barrier. Ends up I get hit in the leg as had no where to go. As lanes open up I kick his car door in retaliation he then tries for another go at me.

Speed filtering etc not a factor here

All examples its not speed, way I'm riding etc its just dickhead cagers who feel that I am going to some how delay their travel by moving in front of them. Its purely small man syndrome

[Edbear]

If your in Auckland look out for this wanker with the number plate SKIPRO. Late model Ford Explorer.

Guy took offence to me filtering past him in stationary traffic on Symonds St this arvo. As the traffic started to move he decided to undertake me and push me in to oncoming traffic

This sort of reaction from cagers is happening to me more frequently anyone else had this sort of problem lately?

That's a reportable traffic offence and I think you'd have a sympathetic ear from the cops on that one.

I totally agree. A wave of thanks to people who deliberatly adjust their position to make room for you goes a looooong way. they're left thinking "wow, he was a friendly biker chap" "maybe they aren't all reckless assholes trying to kill us"

Yup! I always wave a "thank you" to every vehicle that moves aside for me, good PR never hurts. And it does sem to be better nowadays, although some can be sods.

[sefer]

I'm on the South-Western everyday ATM, and find that a lot of cars are moving over. However those that do pull-out/cut me off when either splitting or not are taxis 8 out of 10 times.

[hang0ver]

First Situation:

Stanley Street lights fliter through the traffic to the front. Stop and wait for light to go green. Light goes green I start to move forward car behind me now accelerates through on my left hand side nearly clipping kerb and pushing me towards the other lane.

Speed, filtering etc not a factor here

The way I see it, if your gonna filter to the front of lights, be prepared to use some power off the lights (eyes out for late runners though). If you don't have the power, maybe consider tucking into the cue of traffic instead.

My brother is always raving about scooter riders who filter to the front of lights & slug off the mark... And he's in a Diesel!

Regardless, that driver sounds like an asshole...

H