Let's not inconvenience the public

[NONONO]

And here I was thinking that the Jim Knox / Ken Douglas style of militancy went out in the early eighties.

Reading this has stirred memories of why I hated them so much.

The rhetoric smacks of demands from those who believe they have a controlling right whilst hiding behind others.

Your hearts in the right place, pity your head is buried somewhere so deep that you cant see whats in front of you.

Even the militants learned that you don't win wars with brute force alone, nor by alienating those who agree with the fundermentals for what you are fighting for.

The National party and acc, ( who are just wanabe national puppets) along with their business roundtable supporters believe that if they get into bed with each other and coerce the other minority players with bribes that they can take on the world.

At the end of the day they forget that the majority is on the other side although there are some that just dont know it.

The smart leader in opposition picks his moment and thinks smarter than the opponent. He educates his force so that when he does fight, he has one mass, all going in the same direction, singing from the same songsheet and totally united in the quest.

it's always better to be judged by 12 of your peers than to be carried by 6 of your mates at the end of it all.

So, you're going "musket in hand" eh? Good luck with that one...
Jeeeeez.

[Mully]

Or are we better to rock up to the home of Maoridom, and educate the majority that their elected few have tossed them into the river without a waka all for 30 pieces of silver that the majority will never see?

FYI, historically those Maori selling out the rest for 30 pieces of silver have not needed to be elected - how many Billions have been given out in "Treaty Settlements" and been skimmed off the top by unscrupulous "Kaumatua", rather than used to assist the "common" Maori?

I do agree with the "Divide and conquer" method though. It's what politicians have been using against the public for years.

[Laxi]

Sounds like someone learnt a new word today.

OMFG i'm goin out the back yard to find a tree to hang from! I was actualy going to say the same thing as Katman

[Ronin]

OMFG i'm goin out the back yard to find a tree to hang from! I was actualy going to say the same thing as Katman

That's nothing. I agreed with him the other day. Now thats disturbing.

[Mully]

OMFG i'm goin out the back yard to find a tree to hang from! I was actualy going to say the same thing as Katman

That's nothing. I agreed with him the other day. Now thats disturbing.

Perhaps we should refer to you as "Katmen" now??

[Ronin]

Perhaps we should refer to you as "Katmen" now??

Normal service will be returned as soon as possible. Please hold the line caller.

[Mully]

Normal service will be returned as soon as possible. Please hold the line caller.

Actually, "Ronin" is pretty close to "Robin".

Katman and Ronin.
Dunner dunner dunner dunner - KATMAN!!



We just need to find something for Laxi.....

[MSTRS:Me]

Actually, "Ronin" is pretty close to "Robin".

Katman and Ronin.
Dunner dunner dunner dunner - KATMAN!!



We just need to find something for Laxi.....

Tive? The whole concept gives me the shits...

[Murray]

Well then. Here's the challenge.

Tomorrow night we expect to meet Nick Smith at Akarana Yacht Club. 7:30 sharp.

Tuesday night. Kanwaljit Singh Bakshi (Nats) is holding a function at 131 Kolmar Rd...free food and wine, I gather.

So here's your chance to make good on your assertions of proactivity.
And so if the turn out is maybe me and a few others, who will be to blame?
See you all Monday and Tuesday nights.

Why don't you put it in the calendar and then you might get an idea of attendence. This weekends CHCH protest ride has 54 bikes registered so far. Good effort guys

[wingrider]

I do agree with the "Divide and conquer" method though. It's what politicians have been using against the public for years.

Yes, and thats my thought, Use their own stratergy in reverse against them.
Comments in the media over that past couple of days, (letters to the editor, editorials, opinions etc) all seem to say that Maori are getting sold out by their own elected few.
The deal struck with the Nats over the ETS is going to burden future Maori for many years. HELLO it's going to burden us all.

And the changes to ACC is not just going to affect us white fella's, its going to effect every single person.

[FROSTY:Me]

HEY FOLKS ---
WOAHH THERE!!!!
I apreciate Dpex may be charging in here, but fighting amongst ourselves is EXACTLY what they want isn't it??

[Insanity_rules]

Maybe ... just maybe you should think about what people are actually saying ... it seems that you see one thing Let's Not Inconvenience The Public, and lots of people are actually saying - Target the right places. Personally, I would not support a mall protest - as it does not target anyone in particular - it may leave people confused and really farked off.

I think that educating the public is a better way of dealing ... people do not know that they are also being targetted ... make them aware ...

I'm with Kari on this, she knows her knitting when it comes to this kinda stuff. I doesn't mean we're not allowed to shout and stamp our feet, lets keep telling it like it is in the loudest possible voice. My 2c

[Ronin]

HEY FOLKS ---
WOAHH THERE!!!!
I apreciate Dpex may be charging in here, but fighting amongst ourselves is EXACTLY what they want isn't it??

Who said fighting? I was discussing.....


so woahh frosty!!

[MSTRS:Me]

I'm with Kari on this, she knows her knitting when it comes to this kinda stuff. I doesn't mean we're not allowed to shout and stamp our feet, lets keep telling it like it is in the loudest possible voice. My 2c

After the two little gems today, there will be a few more of us who are getting close/r to throwing things as well...

[Gixxer 4 ever]

This thread is the very image of what pulled the Hawkes Bay apart.
If people keep this up we will be lost in space.

People have the right to put up ideas and plan the next move. Great stuff. And with out them nothing happens

Others have the right to support or not support. No one has the right to tell people what choices they make. People died for us to have the choice to say yes or no.


Why can’t people just post their ideas and ask for support. If you want to support sign up and support. If you don’t want to support any given action don’t sign up but don’t attack others for organizing events.

If you put on an event and no one turns up that’s free choice. Don’t attack them.

The Hawkes Bay thread was closed and sent to the bin and this thread is getting close to the same result.

We must stay united but have choices.