Hawkes Bay protests

[pipson]

Thanks to John & Janet for the invite, .. why is it the furtherest travelled are the only ones on bikes?? but must say it was worth riding in the rain for

I think some really really good information came out of todays meeting & its something I will be raising with the others down this way on sunday .. I have a weee plan formulating

It was good to see you in Napier & not Manfeild. I am glad you made it home ok. It was good to be listened to by a MP & not fobbed off like the last one we spoke to in Hastings.

[MSTRS:Me]

How did I miss that?

EDIT: Done a search and still can't find any mentioning. Clearly I am not in the crowd...

There is no 'in crowd'. I put out a request for anyone interested, in the other thread. The one that got derailed. I got no response that I can recall (I was trying to deal with the fallout in that thread) so I PM'ed all I could think of. Obviously I missed you, so my sincere apologies for that.

[Conquiztador]

There is no 'in crowd'. I put out a request for anyone interested, in the other thread. The one that got derailed. I got no response that I can recall (I was trying to deal with the fallout in that thread) so I PM'ed all I could think of. Obviously I missed you, so my sincere apologies for that.

Accepted. But I recon that if I was in the "in crowd" you would not have forgotten me...

[MSTRS:Me]

The petition form posted up by Pipson (thanks) is fine to use. I am going to put a few here and there for the public to sign. Since the forms will just be lying on a counter somewhere, they need explanation. I have come up with this, BUT AM WAITING FOR APPROVAL from Ixion as chief co-ordinator.

In October of this year, motorcyclists learned that they were to pay up to 400% increases in their ACC levies on registrations. Obviously this was unwelcome news, and we immediately began protesting, and to investigate the reasoning behind such a huge increase. Very quickly, it was found to be based on grossly distorted statistics and actual lies. Soon after, we found that ACC had many other user groups in their spotlight for big increases. We began warning the country with the “Who’s Next?” campaign. ACC and the minister, Nick Smith, countered this with repetitive falsities in an attempt to discredit and marginalise motorcyclists and their protest. But we won’t be quiet.
Slowly the public is becoming aware of just how much extra is going to be taken in all areas of ACC collections. For most earners, this will be in the nature of $400-500 EXTRA every year, just on your wages. Plus, your car registration will jump by about $150, and your annual petrol bill will increase by around $220. And all the while, at the entitlement end, there are to be cuts. We agree with removing payouts to those injured in a criminal act. But that’s it.
You may have heard that ACC is broke? It’s not. After all expenses last year, they posted a profit (surplus) of $1.2 BILLION. Coupled with a record $11 BILLION in reserves. All these increases and entitlement removals are for one reason only – to prepare ACC to be sold to private, offshore insurance companies. Privatising, in other words. Nobody will be better off. Except big business. And the lawyers, due to the inevitable court cases that we currently avoid under the system we’ve had since 1974.
But don’t take our word for it. Do some investigating of your own.
Contact your local MPs. All of them. Ask the direct questions.
Otherwise, to add your voice to the calls for a stop to this nonsense, please sign the petition.

I will advise as soon as I have answer as to whether it strikes the right tone and covers the bases.

[P38]

There is no 'in crowd'. I put out a request for anyone interested, in the other thread. The one that got derailed. I got no response that I can recall (I was trying to deal with the fallout in that thread) so I PM'ed all I could think of. Obviously I missed you, so my sincere apologies for that.

I would also have attended if I had known.

Maybe next time.

[MSTRS:Me]

I have come up with this, BUT AM WAITING FOR APPROVAL from Ixion as chief co-ordinator.

I will advise as soon as I have answer as to whether it strikes the right tone and covers the bases.

The consensus is that it's got too many words. So I'll send it in that form as a Letter to the Editor.
Back to the drawing board for a coversheet...

[grantnz]

The petition form posted up by Pipson (thanks) is fine to use. I am going to put a few here and there for the public to sign. Since the forms will just be lying on a counter somewhere, they need explanation. I have come up with this, BUT AM WAITING FOR APPROVAL from Ixion as chief co-ordinator.

I will advise as soon as I have answer as to whether it strikes the right tone and covers the bases.

Thanks for the invite to yesterdays meeting. It is comforting to know that we have the support of people in higher places on our side ( even if they are only doing the job they are paid to do as the opposing Party, and that is to Oppose). Phil Goff as a motorcyclist semed to be a genuine, straight up sort of character.
What I got out of yesterday was that we are now, not only the small minority group being unfairly targeted for increased levies, but the first in a line of groups who will be targeted in the future. So, we have been given the dubious honour of saving ACC. We are too small to do this alone. ( Don't you feel like Frodo and you've just been handed the Ring?)The 'Who's Next" message, along with educating the public about Nick's Myth is where our focus needs to be. Your explanation for the petition is great.
Thanks for the effort you two put in, it is much appreciated.

[MSTRS:Me]

Ixion's seal of approval......
If you want to print some petition forms and start circulating them, print one of these for each place you leave the forms at.

[P38]

Ixion's seal of approval......
If you want to print some petition forms and start circulating them, print one of these for each place you leave the forms at.

Cheers for this MSTRS.

Just started my petition efforts today.

My goal is to get at least 100 non biker signatures and as many biker signatures as I can by the deadline.

My Sons going to pass it round his mates.... all of whom will be first time voters in 2011.

Got two non bikers to sign already only 98 to go.

By the time the rest of the family signs over christmas I'll almost be there.

[MSTRS:Me]

Saw this
Chris Tremain and Craig Foss would love to get some, I'm sure.

[pipson]

I LOVE IT. We should get every Motorcyclist to send one to there local National MP with a copy of the petition for them to sign & return.

[P38]

Awesome Chrissy Card.

I love it.

I believe I should deliver mine in person to "Chris n Craig" ............

Wonder if they'll send one to me?

[MSTRS:Me]

NZ Post are delivering mine as we speak. Fuck the expense of 2 stamps...

[P38]

Got over 30 Non Biker sigs on my petition so far and I really havent tried yet..... been way easier than I expected.

Might need to revise my original target of 100 non biker signatures.

[pipson]

NZ Post are delivering mine as we speak. Fuck the expense of 2 stamps...

I wonder how many stamps it would take to equal one ACC increase. My two will be in the post tomorrow, I am taking the card & petition to the club meeting to night.