Coromandel board votes to ban 1080

[Motu]

Then it won't happen will it - incentives (money!!!) gets things happening.And that's what caused them to keep the possum population steady....to keep the good money coming in.Think outside the box....not possible in this country.

[Headbanger]

You mean bribe them with future work to ensure they don't sabotage the eradication scheme in order to guarantee themselves a future source of income?

Fuck thats weak, How about any fucker seen releasing possums is shot in the head and hung in a tree as an example to other shitheads.

[Motu]

Worked for the miners - $86,000 for a 3 day week.....but most important of all secured a good redundancy deal,they are working themselves out of a job.

[Ixion]

Human trapping has very human faults.....greed.In the early days of bounty trapping,while they were taking skins in one area....they were releasing possums in another,guaranteeing future income.For trapping to work the income will be very good,then get less and less....then after one skin a week you are out of a job.Time to retrain as another faceless IT worker.

The islands worked because they were small scale - to go after 70 million possums is serious big scale.It can be done - send a hundred or more guys into an area,and take the fuckers out by hand one at a time until the place is clean....then move on.But there has to be a future for these guys beyond a good income while the job is on.I don't think this government has the guts to future proof the life of the people who commit to the task.

Hm. 100 guys. 70 million possums. Say 20 possums per guy per day . Thats 35000 days work, per man . At 200 working days per year thats 175 years of work for every man in the team. Um, how much future do they want. Admittedly getting that last possum in 175 years time is going to be a bit competative.

[Motu]

I'm liberal - we'll allow women into the teams,in 175 years there will be 70 million possum hunters.

[Ixion]

Yeah right.

So , what percenatge of time d' y' think the teams would spend hunting possums, versus what percentage of time shagging

I bet the possums can shag faster than the hunters. They'll win.

[Blackbird]

I bet the possums can shag faster than the hunters. They'll win.

Yup, until the scientists come up with a genetic means of introducing sterility into the population, eradication is impossible. Control IS possible, maybe only with 1080 though.

[Mully]

Yup, until the scientists come up with a genetic means of introducing sterility into the population, eradication is impossible. Control IS possible, maybe only with 1080 though.

Or we could pay someone to go round kicking all the male possums in the bollocks.....

Marginally off topic, but IMHO a genetic solution where NZ should be focussing it's attentions - scientific solutions to problems.

I worry about NZ having all it's eggs in the agricultural basket to try be a world player. There are so many ways that could turn to shit in an instant.

[Hitcher]

a genetic solution where NZ should be focussing it's attentions - scientific solutions to problems.

The Greens only believe in science when it suits them. For some unexplainable reason they are opposed to genetic modification. By unexplicable I mean due to perverse ignorance.

[McJim]

We are still using 1080 down here. I'm glad they will stop in Coromandel because the resultant total loss of native bird life will prove once and for all that the chest beating was being done by a few hunters with self interest at heart....along the following lines...

"I want to shoot deer and possums in my spare time. If my dog eats a poisoned possum it will die. If the deer eat 1080 carrots they will die. Damn - they are pissing on my bonfire. Lets get the hippy pressure groups to cook up some lies like Greenpeace do and ban 1080 so we can have all the hunting we want and let our dogs go nuts in the wilderness. Native birdlife? Doesn't mean anything to me - fuckem."

This is the REAL argument. Do you subscribe to the above? Then ban 1080 otherwise we NEED to eradicate the Possums and that can only currently be done with 1080 drops AND a trapping strategy.

[Mully]

The Greens only believe in science when it suits them. For some unexplainable reason they are opposed to genetic modification. By unexplicable I mean due to perverse ignorance.

And the Greens seem to have ignored that humans have been genetically modifying stuff for eons, but never mind.

(Actually, an older guy I work with was telling me about bananas with little black seeds in them the other day - strange to me, but there you go)