Quad bikes now to get ACC focus

[sAsLEX]

And a half buried log ... or a soft spot that one wheel hits ...

flat beaches often aren't ...

A lot safer learning throttle control and steering on a loose surface than trying it on the street.


You could always do what we did and mark out tracks on a known stretch of sand........


oh thats right that safety nazis want to ban all fun.


You aren't allowed on the beaches on motorized fun anymore. Murawai a case and point. At local meetings the main proponents of closing the beach has been the operators of the Sandpit, 4x4 park and the like, not the locals or users of the beach.........

[sAsLEX]

I don't think I EVER seen a farmer with a helmet on, be that a quad or a 2 wheel mud bike.

Dont see many people shower with helmets on either and many head injuries have resulted from slipping in bathrooms.....

[FJRider]

A lot safer learning throttle control and steering on a loose surface than trying it on the street.


You could always do what we did and mark out tracks on a known stretch of sand........


oh thats right that safety nazis want to ban all fun.


You aren't allowed on the beaches on motorized fun anymore. Murawai a case and point. At local meetings the main proponents of closing the beach has been the operators of the Sandpit, 4x4 park and the like, not the locals or users of the beach.........

The kicker is ... beaches that are available to/for public access ... are actually (in law) public roads ...

[Swoop]

And you don’t see a problem with this?

Strangely enough, yes I did.
The cow-cockey, on the other hand...

[neels]

So it's wrong for the local 5 year olds to be tearing around on the empty section next door on a little 50cc quad bike? Here come the fun nazi's to take all your toys away.

[NONONO]

So it's wrong for the local 5 year olds to be tearing around on the empty section next door on a little 50cc quad bike? Here come the fun nazi's to take all your toys away.

Two words;
Swimming pools.
Used to be something you could have fun with, now fenced off danger areas akin to minefields.

[FastBikeGear]

Unbelievable. I have farmed for near on 40 years and I can’t understand the comments you make in here.

1 Trim the bloody trees or don’t ride under them. Yes it might take an hour a year but it might save a life. If the bike is out of control you are in trouble anyway and it is likely the tree is the least of your problems.

2 A roll bar will cost you very little compared to the trip to Hospital and the subsequent trips to fix your kids. What price do you put on your Children. 15 kmh is nothing unless you are on full lock facing down hill with the gas full on and the bike rolls on your child. It is not the speed that will hurt them.

3 If you are one of the 400 it would mean a lot to you.

No I am not part of the Government but a farmer. When we had private insurance, 10 years ago?, we did Farm Safe courses and purchased all the safety gear for the bikes and Machinery etc. Because we were paid/ saved money by taking responsibility for our actions we did it. Then the government changed and they chucked it all out and we went back to the no blame no care policy and things just went back to the way it was. As shown by the three posting here.

That is what is wrong with the current system. No one has to pay or be responsible cos every one will pay for me.
Privatize ACC and take responsibility for your actions.

You make some great points.

[Gixxer 4 ever]

So it's wrong for the local 5 year olds to be tearing around on the empty section next door on a little 50cc quad bike? Here come the fun nazi's to take all your toys away.

Not at all. But I note we all wear gloves and helmets on the road. So if you can get them for the kids on their 50cc why wouldn’t you? My own kids all rode bikes from age 4-5 on They started on an MR50. We gave them a helmet to wear. This thread was not about taking the fun away it was about limiting the risk. Common sense stuff. Due to a no faults system, we seem to have lost the common sense aspect of life. When we have to pay for our own mistakes I bet the common sense will return. After all aren’t we fighting to keep the "collective pays" option with ACC? Why? So we don’t have to limit the risk cos some one else will pay?

As for the pool comment NONONO..... Have you seen the grief on a Mother or Fathers face when their child is found dead in a pool? Would you want to pull the fence down so you don’t have to open the gate and let a child or two die in your pool? I don’t think so. Are pool fences that bad?

[Gixxer 4 ever]

You make some great points.

Thank you. I note you edited your reply. I know I have made a simplistic statement and there are a lot of things that can't and will not be covered by the private insurance idea but I am trying to comment on each of us taking the initiative and limiting the risk. We just don’t do as well as we should when we have a big umbrella of ACC no faults covering us. How many times do you have to flip a quad before you realise it might not be the fault of the bike?

[FastBikeGear]

Thank you. I note you edited your reply.

Yes I moved my comments into a new thread here http://www.kiwibiker.co.nz/forums/sh...d.php?t=114021

[Pixie]

I have rolled a quad bike. On numerous occasions. No injuries. Having no cage means you can vacate the thing in case of accident.

Yeah,and there have been people who have crippled themselves doing the same thing

[FastBikeGear]

Yeah,and there have been people who have crippled themselves doing the same thing

My elderly father who was still working depite being over 80 rolled his ride on Lawn Mower down a bank earlier this year and ended up with it landing on him and breaking his ribs and arm in three places and has consequently been on ACC ERC ever since.