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    Official response from Ulysses Club President

    The Ulysses Club categorically denies that it has entered into any agreement with ACC or Minister Smith over ACC levies and road safety programmes as apparently suggested by Dr Smith recently. We are absolutely against the outrageous levy rises still being put forward by ACC and are committed to working with other clubs and organisations to fight their implementation.

    As Ulysses National President I am disappointed that many bikers have appeared to take Dr Smith’s comments at face value. Ulysses has been at the forefront of the ACC protests. I have been very vocal in my condemnation of the proposed changes to ACC – not only the motorcycling issues but the other changes that impact on us all as New Zealanders: car levy up 36%, diesel goods vehicles levy up 94%, increases in petrol, employee, employer and self employed levies plus cuts in services.

    The first mass rally in Nelson was widely supported by the local Ulysses branches and other clubs. I was invited to take part and did so in my role as National President. Ulysses organised the mass rallies held across the country on the following two weekends – thousands of bikers demonstrated in Wellington, Auckland, Hamilton, Christchurch, Timaru, Tauranga and other towns. Then the Bikoi – once the message of maximum safety and minimum disruption was implemented, the Ulysses Club took an active part in supporting the ride as did many of our members. I was out of the country at the time of the Bikoi and was unable to attend.

    The work that Ulysses has done and still does with the Injury Prevention arm of ACC will continue and is separate from the levy issue. This work has input from other motorcycle clubs and interest groups and continues to benefit all motorcyclists.

    It is clear that the fight against the levy increases is not over – that was very evident in ACC’s complete disregard for the hundreds of submissions that had been made. The revised proposed levies are completely unacceptable as they are only marginally less than the originals. We need to stand together not only as motorcyclists but as citizens of this country. The government has a clear agenda to attack the very fabric of ACC – an institution that is world renown no fault compensation scheme. We need to push for a full scale review if ACC with a view to returning it to its original purpose. ACC management and the government have done a great job of hiding the massive changes planned for ACC behind the furore around the motorcycle levies. We need to engage public support for the wider purpose while ensuring that our interests are protected.

    Peter McIntosh,
    National President,
    Ulysses Club of New Zealand Inc


    Edit from Peter Mac

    "I have been in contact with Dr Smith today both by email and by phone regarding his statements. I am satisfied that he was misquoted either intentionally or by accident. He did not state nor suggest at any time that a deal had been struck with Ulysses.


    As far as I am concerned the matter is resolved.

    Peter McIntosh,
    National President,
    Ulysses Club of NZ Inc"
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    So once again, Nicks Myth lied. Gee he told a few good porkies last night for sure. Tsk, tsk Minister, you want us to believe you have everyones interest at heart then lie through your teeth on camera no less. What a plonker!
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    Actually I feel a media heads up is required over this. It is not enough that he is exposed on here methinks.
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    My personal appology to Ulysses

    Ulysses club and especially Peter Mac

    I humbly appologise for my comments in the thread this reply relates to

    I am (in hindsight) quite ashamed of some of the inflamotory dribble in that thread

    We at KB are experts in 'trolling' we should have seen Nicks bullshit for what it was

    Mostly, I appologise for not going straight to the source to verify or counter Nick Smiths statement

    Sorry Ulysses

    Ulysses have taken a very active and mature role on this campaign from day one
    Its time we all put personal agenda's aside and fought together

    Thank you for the statement Peter

    EDIT:

    Peter has been on phone to Nick Smith
    Smith claims it 'was never said'

    Here is the take from Peter Mac

    Hi Brent,

    can you please post te following for me:

    "I have been in contact with Dr Smith today both by email and by phone regarding his statements. I am satisfied that he was misquoted either intentionally or by accident. He did not state nor suggest at any time that a deal had been struck with Ulysses.

    As far as I am concerned the matter is resolved.

    Peter McIntosh,
    National President,
    Ulysses Club of NZ Inc"
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    Quote Originally Posted by Mom View Post
    Actually I feel a media heads up is required over this. It is not enough that he is exposed on here methinks.
    I'd suggest that Peter McIntosh, himself, should go to the media to publicly call Nick Smith out over this, rather than simply posting a statement on here.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mom View Post
    So once again, Nicks Myth lied. Gee he told a few good porkies last night for sure. Tsk, tsk Minister, you want us to believe you have everyones interest at heart then lie through your teeth on camera no less. What a plonker!
    What did he say?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Katman View Post
    I'd suggest that Peter McIntosh, himself, should go to the media to publicly call Nick Smith out over this, rather than simply posting a statement on here.
    good suggestion Katman.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Katman View Post
    I'd suggest that Peter McIntosh, himself, should go to the media to publicly call Nick Smith out over this, rather than simply posting a statement on here.
    Dont worry man, Peter is no ones fool and I am sure he will be defending ulysses good name with appropriate vigour

    Trust me when I say he has more lines to the media than many

    JD if you want to write something in KR I can get him in touch
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    Quote Originally Posted by Katman View Post
    I'd suggest that Peter McIntosh, himself, should go to the media to publicly call Nick Smith out over this, rather than simply posting a statement on here.
    ooooooo this hurts... but I agree with Katman.

    I don't knwo what KB can do to assist but I'm happy to put some money toward an airfare for Peter to fly down and see the Minister if that's what it takes to get some media coverage on this ASAP.
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    Thumbs up

    Quote Originally Posted by Katman View Post
    I'd suggest that Peter McIntosh, himself, should go to the media to publicly call Nick Smith out over this, rather than simply posting a statement on here.
    What kat said! x TWO! Has to come form Peter, can't be refuted by the Mythster then!
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    Quote Originally Posted by ManDownUnder View Post
    ooooooo this hurts... but I agree with Katman.

    I don't knwo what KB can do to assist but I'm happy to put some money toward an airfare for Peter to fly down and see the Minister if that's what it takes to get some media coverage on this ASAP.
    Get the pair of them together on Close Up.

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    I think this highlights the need for us to take our own video recorders to protests.

    I recorded some of what Nick said last night on my cell phone but unfortunately I was only had enough memory to record some of it...and the quality was pretty bad.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Katman View Post
    Get the pair of them together on Close Up.
    Works for me.

    What's price to pay for the good Dr should he be caught lying... and how do we maximise it??
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    Thumbs up Well Said StoneY

    Quote Originally Posted by StoneY View Post
    Ulysses club and especially Peter Mac

    I humbly appologise for my comments in the thread this reply relates to

    I am (in hindsight) quite ashamed of some of the inflamotory dribble in that thread

    We at KB are experts in 'trolling' we should have seen Nicks bullshit for what it was

    Mostly, I appologise for not going straight to the source to verify or counter Nick Smiths statement

    Sorry Ulysses

    Ulysses have taken a very active and mature role on this campaign from day one
    Its time we all put personal agenda's aside and fought together

    Thank you for the statement Peter
    Well said. As a Ulyssian I was deeply preturbed with what I was reading on this forum.
    There is always a silver linning to every cloud. In this instance It appears to be the way all the clubs and motorcycle organisations have pulled together.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Katman View Post
    I'd suggest that Peter McIntosh, himself, should go to the media to publicly call Nick Smith out over this, rather than simply posting a statement on here.
    I'm with katman.......



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