AA supports motorcycle levies

[Voltaire]

So they have been as conned by the ACC and Ministers mis-speak as many others. We can expect no help from an organisation who still believe cars are subsidising bikes.
Thats them kicked into touch as far as I am concerned.

I would suggest going to see them, not as bikers but as members who have a variety of transport options.
I have to say that I don't read ''Directions"when it arrives in the post, or fill in the voting papers...and looks what happens when the hard core run the show.....reminds me of Unions.


Protest rides, getting in the papers and on the TV are all very well but it appears to me that all the real action takes place in meeting rooms behind closed doors. These guys are there for the long haul....
While we are outside riding they are inside shafting.
.....just an observation.

[mowgli]

I've had a couple of responses from AA. To their credit they have been very helpful, open and willing to provide detailed information to back up their claims. Attached is the discussion so far. I've scrubbed all reference to the analyst.

[Pixie]

I note that there is no code for road condition factors in the data.
Ergo,if you come of on melted tar,shit or gravel you had no warning of,it gets coded as "too fast for the conditions".
Roading authorities get off scott free.

[mowgli]

I note that there is no code for road condition factors in the data.
Ergo,if you come of on melted tar,shit or gravel you had no warning of,it gets coded as "too fast for the conditions".
Roading authorities get off scott free.

Road condition might be included in "Other" which is the fourth most common causal factor.

[Voltaire]

I've had a couple of responses from AA. To their credit they have been very helpful, open and willing to provide detailed information to back up their claims. Attached is the discussion so far. I've scrubbed all reference to the analyst.

I too sent a couple of emails to the AA but mine were not as well written as yours and you got more information from them.

My head is starting to hurt with all the different figures being thrown around.

It would be good to see more rider training days come from this.
I got a lot out of a rider training day at Hampton Downs and I'd like to do more of them.

[duckonin]

Will they give lessons to the cage drivers too? So they know to look out for motorcyclists too??

Nah, didn't think so!

Whooptie shit! a reduction in levies. They can go suck arse!

100%...The bull shit is you can memorize 25 questions then go out and learn to drive or ride...

[Owl]

100%...The bull shit is you can memorize 25 questions then go out and learn to drive or ride...

Bugger, that hard? How many are you allowed to get wrong?

[Noidy]

The AA is cautious about introducing risk rating to any road users, but we believe it could be trialled for motorcyclists as that may help significantly reduce the size of the levies. We are aware that there are experienced riders like yourself who have decades-long safe riding records which could be rewarded by a discount. We consider recognising skills and experience may be a way of appeasing motorcyclists who are facing large levy increases, although the idea needs further research so that relatively unskilled riders aren’t unduly penalised.

If the vehicle is subject to levies how are they going to achieve this? Can we get the full story?

[Voltaire]

If the vehicle is subject to levies how are they going to achieve this? Can we get the full story?

Probably have to join the AA/ or Political Party, go to meetings, get on a committee....etc....

Personally I find death-by-meeting too much for me, listening to endless droning....but the reality is they are the ones who end up making the decisions that we have to live by.

So thats why I cannot complain about the outcome.