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    Sensible law would be no motorway while on L, then the opportunities to be in the way of other traffic at 70 would be reduced.

    Hmm. Still would leave places like the single lane sections of SH1 north of Hamilton (cables on the right and gravel on the left) are an unpleasant place to be if you're tootling along at 70. Hmmm

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    If that was a rule,you wouldn't be able to go very far............

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    Quote Originally Posted by The Everlasting View Post
    If that was a rule,you wouldn't be able to go very far............
    well, considering that there's about 1 mile of actual motorway in the whole country I reckon you could got pretty far!

    The no motorway on a learners thing is there in the UK because we have very long, mostly straight and incredibly well kept motorways on which it can be very easy to go a lot faster than your skill level will cover. Over here that simply doesn't exist, there are manhole covers all over the main highways, they're rarely straight and dual carriageway at the same time, let alone three lanes or more. Sure you can rack up quite a speed but you need to put effort into it, not just slam your foot down and sail past everyone for an hour ...

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    I'm 99% percent sure that in New Zealand it is illegal to provide an overseas license if you hold a NZ license.
    When I converted my overseas into NZ the lady at AA said I am no longer allowed to use my overseas license but haven't checked the law.

    For example, if your license gets suspended, you would be able to drive with the overseas license.

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    I have jsut got my learners, am purchasing my bike in a week and I do intend to travel within the speed limit. Think I might be too scared to go over 70 anyway. Nelson only has one pretend motorway so i'm pretty safe there. will stick to quiet suburban roads to start and will venture out country as confidence grows.

    I would suspect that as I grow in confidence so to will my speed so that is something I will need to be very aware off.

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    Quote Originally Posted by tcpdump View Post
    I'm 99% percent sure that in New Zealand it is illegal to provide an overseas license if you hold a NZ license.
    When I converted my overseas into NZ the lady at AA said I am no longer allowed to use my overseas license but haven't checked the law.

    For example, if your license gets suspended, you would be able to drive with the overseas license.
    I'm very sceptical about what the people at the AA say as the guy I talked to about the bike license thought I could only go at 50Ks and couldn't ride anything bigger than a 125cc bike!

    Personally, I doubt I'll ever do anything worthy of producing a license while on my learners (2 months to go!)

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    Quote Originally Posted by Genie View Post
    I have jsut got my learners, am purchasing my bike in a week and I do intend to travel within the speed limit. Think I might be too scared to go over 70 anyway. Nelson only has one pretend motorway so i'm pretty safe there. will stick to quiet suburban roads to start and will venture out country as confidence grows.

    I would suspect that as I grow in confidence so to will my speed so that is something I will need to be very aware off.
    When I first started out I spent the first 2 days riding up and down residential roads getting used to low speed stuff and a lot of emergency braking practice, I'm pretty sure it's saved me 2 crashes so far! Definately the way to go when you first start out

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    Quote Originally Posted by magicmonkey View Post
    When I first started out I spent the first 2 days riding up and down residential roads getting used to low speed stuff and a lot of emergency braking practice, I'm pretty sure it's saved me 2 crashes so far! Definately the way to go when you first start out
    thank you...was how my mind was thinking .... maybe i am intelligent after all. Was going to pop into a huge empty carpark for good measure as well

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    Quote Originally Posted by Genie View Post
    Maybe you should try it one day...you'd like it!
    Born and bread in under the foothills of Mt Hutt. Had plenty trips to Nelson. Awesome place.....not too keen on Auckland hence living in Pukekohe. Hoping to do 3 weeks back down there in Feb March. You from that neck of the woods are ya.....you lucky little trolip!

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    70 km/h on a learners plate. Yeah I did that speed - at least twice on every open-road ride... on my way up to and down from 100 km/h.

    All this nonsense about no motorway while on learners... How about asking the question: should a motorcyclist who is not competent to do 100 km/h on an open road be on the road in the first place? Maybe the public road isn't the best place to acquire the skills necessary to operate a vehicle at the post speed-limit?
    The system is broken - the mere fact that they force people with a full license in another class to become learners is ridiculous. Imposing a curfew on a 30+ year old because they want to attain another license class is ridiculous. The graded licensing system is made for teenagers not adults. The 6R license restrictions makes perfect sense - if we ignore the curfew for a second - in that it limits you in regards to stepping off the deep end.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Genie View Post
    thank you...was how my mind was thinking .... maybe i am intelligent after all. Was going to pop into a huge empty carpark for good measure as well
    yeah, empty car park would be awesome, I didn't quite trust myself to ride to the nearest one though!

    One thing I wish someone had told me before I started out was to use the back brake at slow speeds, I've only started doing it in the last few weeks and it really makes a difference ...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Grubber View Post
    Born and bread in under the foothills of Mt Hutt. Had plenty trips to Nelson. Awesome place.....not too keen on Auckland hence living in Pukekohe. Hoping to do 3 weeks back down there in Feb March. You from that neck of the woods are ya.....you lucky little trolip!
    who you calling trolllop??? bloody helll. it's bitch.

    yes I am fortunate to be livng here. will be even more fortunate next thursday. just off down the shop to have another 'sit' and give them a few dollars down....they only got one left in stock and the next lot will be $500 more. They not selling 'my' bike

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    Quote Originally Posted by magicmonkey View Post
    yeah, empty car park would be awesome, I didn't quite trust myself to ride to the nearest one though!

    One thing I wish someone had told me before I started out was to use the back brake at slow speeds, I've only started doing it in the last few weeks and it really makes a difference ...
    am fortunate that i had hepas of experience before i had children, really need to re-fresh. the bike shop down the road has a huge carpark so i'll be having a wee pootle around there before i hit the big road.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Genie View Post
    who you calling trolllop??? bloody helll. it's bitch.

    yes I am fortunate to be livng here. will be even more fortunate next thursday. just off down the shop to have another 'sit' and give them a few dollars down....they only got one left in stock and the next lot will be $500 more. They not selling 'my' bike
    HAHAHA. You sound worse than me when buying a new bike....I see it, i want it, i buy it and look out anyone who gets in my way. Usually go for the cash deal and get the good price... Sounds like you are the reborn biker are ya. Think a lot of people have been there.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mikkel View Post
    70 km/h on a learners plate. Yeah I did that speed - at least twice on every open-road ride... on my way up to and down from 100 km/h.

    All this nonsense about no motorway while on learners... How about asking the question: should a motorcyclist who is not competent to do 100 km/h on an open road be on the road in the first place? Maybe the public road isn't the best place to acquire the skills necessary to operate a vehicle at the post speed-limit?
    The system is broken - the mere fact that they force people with a full license in another class to become learners is ridiculous. Imposing a curfew on a 30+ year old because they want to attain another license class is ridiculous. The graded licensing system is made for teenagers not adults. The 6R license restrictions makes perfect sense - if we ignore the curfew for a second - in that it limits you in regards to stepping off the deep end.
    This tired argument again.

    So you think because someone has had a car licence for 15 years they should automatically get a motorcycle licence with no restrictions?

    The licence restrictions aren't for a huge period of time compared to the length of time you could be riding for over the rest of your life. Is it really such a big deal to travel on lower speed roads for a short period of time just while you get your skills up?

    And is it really such a big deal that you don't ride after 10pm - just while you are learning essential riding skills that may well save your life later on?

    Are you going to put forward the ridiculous argument that learning these skills while riding as fast as you can, at 100km/h, is the best way to go? Not even someone learning to ride a push bike does that. You start of at slower speeds and then build up.


    Have you got any other great ideas on ways to kill leaner riders?

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