Who really does 70 on learners?

[gilly]

for all those complaining about the 70km/h restriction then how about you aquire the appropriate licence for what you want to use your bike for?

Agree totally.
Do your time on a Learners and LEARN.
Then get your full.

[Ms Piggy]

I plan to when I finaly get my bike, but who on their Ls goes that speed? Or even puts their plates up? Anyone ever got a ticket for not doing so?

I got a very kind cop who clocked me doing 113kms with no L plate and only did me for an $80 speeding ticket - it could've been around $550 or something (it was also after 10pm). However, I have heard that not all law enforcement officers are so kind.

[atothek]

i can see both arguments for and against. i had my car licence for 10+ years before i decided to get my car licence. i agree with a learning period but a lot of the skills needed to keep you safe on a bike are also (but to a lesser extent) needed on a bike. there should be some allowance for those who have a driving history already. I often exceed the 70km/h limit as there isn't really a viable alternative to getting from wellington to the hutt. its not safe merging at 70kmh and its not as safe going 70km/h when the weather isnt the best. where i can i just avoid the 100km/h areas but then if they test it in the restricted test then obviously learners need to learn that skill prior. motorways are by and large much cleaner, smoother and there are less things to watch out for (cars leaving parks, intersections, driveways) so they make a smart choice for a learner but 70km/h with larger vehicles driving past is scary - being overtaken by big livestock truck after he rides your arse isn't much fun for a new learner. luckily i'm over 25 and have completed a DDC so i'll fly through the restricted period.

[huff3r]

i can see both arguments for and against. i had my car licence for 10+ years before i decided to get my car licence. i agree with a learning period but a lot of the skills needed to keep you safe on a bike are also (but to a lesser extent) needed on a bike. there should be some allowance for those who have a driving history already. I often exceed the 70km/h limit as there isn't really a viable alternative to getting from wellington to the hutt. its not safe merging at 70kmh and its not as safe going 70km/h when the weather isnt the best. where i can i just avoid the 100km/h areas but then if they test it in the restricted test then obviously learners need to learn that skill prior. motorways are by and large much cleaner, smoother and there are less things to watch out for (cars leaving parks, intersections, driveways) so they make a smart choice for a learner but 70km/h with larger vehicles driving past is scary - being overtaken by big livestock truck after he rides your arse isn't much fun for a new learner. luckily i'm over 25 and have completed a DDC so i'll fly through the restricted period.

Umm, they certainly DO NOT test driving in a 100kph zone in the restricted test! They test driving in a higher speed zone with a limit of no more than 70kph, they cant test you in a 100kph zone as they require you to be within 10kph of the speed limit - and you are still on your learners during the test and therefore must obey the conditions of your licence..

[magicmonkey]

Umm, they certainly DO NOT test driving in a 100kph zone in the restricted test! They test driving in a higher speed zone with a limit of no more than 70kph, they cant test you in a 100kph zone as they require you to be within 10kph of the speed limit - and you are still on your learners during the test and therefore must obey the conditions of your licence..

Nah, there's an exemption for the restricted test, you can go 100 but apparently some instructors don't know that, best to check with them before you set off if you haven't got the restricted yet...

[Disrespective]

I never went much above 70kph on my learners and never took my L plate off. Didn't see the point as i wasn't commuting through 100kph zones ever. Better safe than sorry.

My restricted test went without a hitch as i was more than confident at 70 and since then, i'm happy at 100kph without issue at all... well so far at least haha.

Seriously, there is no need to do over 70 on a learners unless you have to for commuting reasons. But even then i would prefer to just drive a car until you have a restricted. I can't afford a $400 fine now, let alone a few months ago.

It's only 6 or 12 months or what ever it is if you're under 25. It's not the end of the world as far as i can tell.

[ridenshine]

It was fantastic for us old buggers, no size limit (650 Bonnie first bike) and full licence in 4 weeks. My sons had to do this new licence set up and I think the 250 law needs to be replaced with one about power.

[tcpdump]

The aquatic gentlewoman is correct.

Land Transport (Enforcement Powers) Amendment Act 2009 came into force 1st December 2009.

Licence condition breaches go to $100 + 35 demerits (instead of $400 and 25 demerits - less $$$ more demerits). EXCEPT for failure to display an L plate , remains same demerits.

Noisy exhaust now cops 25 demerits . As does obscured or deceptive number plates.

And the official link for this:
http://www.transport.govt.nz/legisla...mentpowersact/

[GeForce]

I rode with a L plate for while and havn't had any problems, The Caps don't core to much as long as your not pulling wheelies or skids. They don't mind, got done for 160 on the L plate, I complained with "Can i see your calabration certificate" and they just left it @ that.

[Mudfart]

Ive got my L plate bolted on, I think it helps incase a bigger bike decides to come up behind to cruise next to me. It tells people "danger, danger, noob on this bike."

[Genie]

I shall be proud to have the 'L' plate on. It says I'm doing it (learning to ride).

...won't be going on massive rides that require to travel over 70k. Will spend first few months just getting used to being on a bike again.

[The Everlasting]

I shall be proud to have the 'L' plate on. It says I'm doing it (learning to ride).

...won't be going on massive rides that require to travel over 70k. Will spend first few months just getting used to being on a bike again.

If your not wanting too exceed 70km/h,i suggest you avoid the motorways,too dangerous.

[cowboyz]

If your not wanting too exceed 70km/h,i suggest you avoid the motorways,too dangerous.

that is the idea of the learner licence. to learn. And despite apparently popular opinion you dont learn on a main road with 400 cars around you. Especially on christmas eve. It is a licence to learn in a quiet place on your own or with an instructor. Reinforces my idea that there shouldnt be a time limit on the learner licence. You should be able to get your restricted when you are capable of getting it. some riders will spend 6 months riding round and be more than capable after 1. Others will spend 6 months sitting on their arse and then have the same eligiblity for the restricted licence.

[Genie]

obvisiouly you have not ventured to Nelson. LOL, no motorways as such. Not like the North Island. Things tend to become a little relaxed this side of the water.

[Number One]

Used an L plate for three weeks, never stuck to 70 (as far as I am concerned I would rather travel at a safe speed). I never got pinged, but I knew I was taking a financial risk.

What he said - 70 on the motorway is asking for trouble I found