Let's hope ACC doesn't start running this!

**R6_kid:Me** · 9th December 2009, 15:44

Originally Posted by zeocen

Outward interference aside, it's always been up to us to reduce the risk - struggling to see the problem with that particular ad, myself.

It's not the message, it's the portrayal and the way it was delivered.

Gee, I'm sure I've heard people say that somewhere else before

**zeocen** · 9th December 2009, 15:47

Originally Posted by bogan

problem is other motorists see it as well, then figure if a biker crashes he just got what was coming to him, from wiki it says the biggest cause of bike accidents is other motorists pulling out in front of us, surely a true accident prevention scheme would target those type of accidents first? Some very good European adds do that.

The ad did say, "Regardless of whos fault it is" after quoting that statistic. It sounds about right, really. Head on collision in a car versus a head on collision on a bike, 38 times more chance for serious injury or death? Sounds reasonable to me.

As a motorist I would see that advert as, "Don't ride like a fuckwit and then you'll only need to worry about the other motorists." (Who I don't believe are the majority cause for our accidents, I personally think we are our majority cause.)

**zeocen** · 9th December 2009, 15:48

Originally Posted by R6_kid

It's not the message, it's the portrayal and the way it was delivered.

Gee, I'm sure I've heard people say that somewhere else before

Ah.

I understand now :P

Personally I found it interesting that it had three of my bikes in that ad! An ER6, a Blackbird and a Hornet! (albeit the new model

)

**Winston001** · 9th December 2009, 15:51

Looks fair to me. Not representative of all bikers but the risks shown are very real.

**slofox** · 9th December 2009, 15:54

Well, hell, I don't see anything wrong with that first ad - I mean, I ride like that all the time..!

**dipshit** · 9th December 2009, 16:22

Truth hurts, doesn't it.

Trouble is we have had too many years of BRONZ and such saying things like... "it's all the car drivers fault!"... so too many motorcyclists kept riding around like fuckwits thinking their shit doesn't stink.

And incidentally there are a few big billboard posters aimed at motorcyclists around Dunedin roads like this...

**dipshit** · 9th December 2009, 16:28

Originally Posted by bogan

from wiki it says the biggest cause of bike accidents is other motorists pulling out in front of us

Which is bullshit.

surely a true accident prevention scheme would target those type of accidents first?

Or better yet, one that encourages motorcyclists to stop riding around like fuckwits.

**shafty** · 9th December 2009, 16:36

If you agree with the video message, you can "rate it" by clicking on the stars below the clip.

If however, you feel it protrays an unfair generalisation, you can also "rate it" - a one in my case, ie POOR.

I'd encourage a vote either way, 'cos I'll bet a cold beer or 9, that some Aussie Politician will stand up in 3 months and say "Wow, that was a success, we achieved a 80% approval rating" - based on 4 out of 5 stars.

Case rested.

(mumble mumble, now where's that beer)

**James Deuce** · 9th December 2009, 16:43

Originally Posted by Winston001

Looks fair to me. Not representative of all bikers but the risks shown are very real.

It's only one of the ads. All of them portray all motorcyclists as hoons all of the time and the staged accidents are laughably improbable, such as a rider speeding around a gentle right hand sweeper ending up under the wheels of a car on the other side of the road. What the?

If he fell off he'd head off at a tangent to the direction of travel. He's more likely to impact a fencepost to the left hand side of the road. Equallybad outcome and probably responsible for most of the single motorcycle cornering accident fatalities, but suddenly diving to the inside of the corner without being hit by another vehicle is a bit improbable, particularly when considering all thoe force being used to maintain that constant turn at high speed is overcoming the bike and rider's natural inclination to travel in a straight line. A straight line that would take the bike and rider away from the vehicle on the other side of the road.

I know TV likes to bend physics from time to time, but that's silly.

**Slyer** · 9th December 2009, 16:46

I liked the billboards around Rodney more.
http://www.kiwibiker.co.nz/forums/al...ictureid=29814

**dipshit** · 9th December 2009, 17:12

Originally Posted by James Deuce

All of them portray all motorcyclists as hoons all of the time and the staged accidents are laughably improbable, such as a rider speeding around a gentle right hand sweeper ending up under the wheels of a car on the other side of the road.

Kind of like this you mean... http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FiufKP5xDoU

**James Deuce** · 9th December 2009, 17:15

I object, I'm not in that video.

**Katman** · 9th December 2009, 17:29

Originally Posted by zeocen

As a motorist I would see that advert as, "Don't ride like a fuckwit and then you'll only need to worry about the other motorists." (Who I don't believe are the majority cause for our accidents, I personally think we are our majority cause.)

Trouble is, these days it's not only other motorists we need to worry about, it's other motorcyclists as well.

Edit: Just watched the ad in the OP and thought it was absolutely spot on.