New ACC motorcycle levies confirmed

[Mully]

Additonal bit added to the Stuff page:

BIKERS MULL NEW LEVIES

Bikers Rights Organisation of New Zealand president Les Mason, one of the organisers of last month's protests, said the hikes were "liveable with".

"We're pleased that the Minister has recognised that the original ACC proposals were unjustifiable but that is still a very substantial levy hike."

He said bikers harboured concerns that further hikes would be proposed next year.

"They haven't got what they wanted this time so it seems a pretty likely bet that they'll try for it again next year."

He would not comment on whether protests would carry on, saying it would be up to the BRONZ membership.

"Obviously the motorcyclists of New Zealand will be having a think about that over the next couple of days and they'll come back to their representatives and tell us what they want to do," he said.

"We need to make it clear to ACC that this is not something they can try again."

[Azi Dahaka]

http://static.stuff.co.nz/files/QuestionsandAnswers.pdf

here is the acc information have a read there are still three categories mopheads(49cc) 50-600cc and 601cc+

Edit:dont be demoralised it is only 8 pages long just the 8 pages repeat for some strange stuff.com reason

[James Deuce]

http://static.stuff.co.nz/files/QuestionsandAnswers.pdf

here is the acc information have a read there are still three categories mopheads(49cc) 50-600cc and 601cc+

Ooo, maybe a few pointed comments about the origin of the cc limits in the previous proposal went in. I still think it telegraphs a move to a 125cc learner law.

[IdunBrokdItAgin]

I may well get flamed for saying this, I don't mind paying more, than cars, AS LONG AS IT FUNDS MOTORCYCLE AWARENESS CAMPAIGNS, FOR CAR DRIVERS.

But, we should still campaign for the removal of Motorcycles as a seperate pool/ rate if this isn't the case.

Sorry for shouting.

[Azi Dahaka]

i like this one

10. How has the rate for motorcycles been set?
Different risk factors are applied to different classes of motor vehicle based on an
assessment of accident risk. A 50% factor has been applied to mopeds, a 150%
factor to motorcycles up to 600cc, and 200% for motorcycles over 601cc, plus a
specific $30 per bike safety levy. Other motor vehicles such as goods service
vehicles also face a risk factor based on an assessment of higher risk. This
approach to setting motorcycle levies on relativity to the standard motor vehicle is
intended to apply into the future.

from the link i posted before

[Azi Dahaka]

and this is just halerious


The Government does not believe that there are sufficient motorcycles in the 50-
125cc range to justify a separate class, so has opted for a single class for
motorcycles up to 600cc.

[Squiggles]

Still waiting to hear back re safety initiatives...

Still too large when they do so little and waste so much.

[firefighter]

But that is still an increase of between $75 and $174 for the owners of petrol powered motorcycles.

I just checked online and a years Reg is $321. So it's actually an increase of $105 if it goes up to $426.....

Or did I read it wrong?

[James Deuce]

I may well get flamed for saying this, I don't mind paying more, than cars, AS LONG AS IT FUNDS MOTORCYCLE AWARENESS CAMPAIGNS, FOR CAR DRIVERS.

But, we should still campaign for the removal of Motorcycles as a seperate pool/ rate if this isn't the case.

Sorry for shouting.

You really are a muppet.

[Azi Dahaka]

Still waiting to hear back re safety initiatives...

Still too large when they do so little and waste so much.

it is in that document

13. Why is the Government proposing to ring-fence $30 of the
moped/motorcycle levy increase for injury prevention?
Motorcycle clubs like Ulysses and BRONZ have indicated a strong interest in working
with ACC on improving motorcycle safety, and have been critical of the small sum of
approximately $250,000 per year that has historically been spent on injury
prevention.
The Transport Accident Commission in Victoria, Australia introduced a motorcycle
safety levy of $49.50 for every motorbike to create a targeted fund to improve
motorcycle safety (see (http://www.vicroads.vic.gov.au/Home/Motorcycles/). While
overall motorcycle fatalities in Australia have grown similarly to New Zealand, Victoria
has achieved a 20% reduction.
The new ring-fenced fund of $3 million per annum will be modelled on the Victorian
experience. The Government will be inviting representatives of motorcyclists to
assist in ensuring the funds are well targeted at the sorts of training, information, and
road improvements that will be effective.

[neels]

I just checked online and a years Reg is $321. So it's actually an increase of $105 if it goes up to $426.....

Or did I read it wrong?

The original post has cars at $198, but it's already $247 so is that figure just the ACC levy part of the cost, not the total you will pay at the post office.

http://www.nzta.govt.nz/vehicle/regi...sing/fees.html

[Squiggles]

The Government will be inviting representatives of motorcyclists to assist in ensuring the funds are well targeted at the sorts of training, information, and road improvements that will be effective.

Ill await the call then Expect much to be squandered as is the case in the current setup

[MSTRS:Me]

I don't give a fuck what the actual rise is...that prick was given notice on 17th Nov and at all opportunities before and since. He knows what he was likely to stir up with any increase at all (beyond that applied to cars, for 'fairness's sake ) so he will now reap the benefit of his ill-judged decision.
CUNT!!

[Naki Rat]

http://static.stuff.co.nz/files/QuestionsandAnswers.pdf

here is the acc information have a read there are still three categories mopheads(49cc) 50-600cc and 601cc+

Goods Service vehicles pay a higher levy than 600+cc MCs - potential ally in ongoing protest ? The tradesmen's trucks and vans are high risk???

In answer to Question 12 we have an 'official' 55% of MC accidents involving another vehicle having no rider fault. Final sentence "No matter which way the analysis is done, motorcycles are higher risk". Combine those two and we are paying more for being the victim

[Waxxa]

Better, but still bad...
1. No justification for increases in general.
2. No justification for disparity in engine capacity with regard levy size.
3. Continuing departure from ACC's no fault basis.

+1
Protests' to continue...until a more equatable levy can be set for all road users.

...and its' more about the philosophy of ACC that we need to fight for now