ACC expenses

**wynw** · 28th November 2009, 13:30

i can see now where some of our hard earned money is going, i passed a shiny new acc company car this week and was surprised they are driving volkswagons( must be safer than a good old boring corolla or nissan) driver was wearing hi vis tho...am i wrong in thinking that a golf would be more expensive to lease than a corolla. no wonder their executives got a significant superanuation bonus!!!

**p.dath** · 28th November 2009, 13:34

Hard to tell. First there is fleet discounts, and then there is the cost of the servicing program, then there is the actual cost of running the vehicle, and finally the re-sale value.

I would expect they would be looking at the total cost of ownership, and not just the purchase price.

**mashman** · 28th November 2009, 15:13

I would have thought that in this day and age of climate change that the government fleet would have been, well, a little more green! Ya know, lead from by example kind of thing!!!

**MacD** · 28th November 2009, 15:42

I suspect you will find that the Volkswagen has a modern common rail diesel engine and if so is very economical to run. The nearest equivalent Asian car would be one of the Hyundai diesels.

If by "green" you mean something like a Prius, then you mean low emission only. All the batteries etc make hybrids anything but "green", they're also heavy and if you've ever been in one you'd notice that the engine runs almost continuously except when stopped at lights.

**Grahameeboy** · 28th November 2009, 15:46

They may even lease which comes with servicing etc......guess they should have Holden's to keep everyone happy

**mashman** · 28th November 2009, 18:59

Originally Posted by MacD

I suspect you will find that the Volkswagen has a modern common rail diesel engine and if so is very economical to run. The nearest equivalent Asian car would be one of the Hyundai diesels.

If by "green" you mean something like a Prius, then you mean low emission only. All the batteries etc make hybrids anything but "green", they're also heavy and if you've ever been in one you'd notice that the engine runs almost continuously except when stopped at lights.

Thanks for the education, sorry for the ignorance. I hope they replace the whole fleet if that's the case and get a decent return on the BM's to put back into the coffers too

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By green i meant fuel consumption and emissions yup, I see they also emit 95% less sulphur too... gotta be a good thing if sulphur is a baddy!

Could they do me one with a twin configuration that would fit the Prila...

**mashman** · 28th November 2009, 19:01

Originally Posted by Grahameeboy

They may even lease which comes with servicing etc......guess they should have Holden's to keep everyone happy

Shhhhh, i'm sure there's some of the ford camp in here to ya now

**Pedrostt500** · 29th November 2009, 08:12

The problem with the common rail diesle engines and NZ diesle is we have the diesle bug here, it fucks the diesle pumps so quickly that you are not aware of the problem till your vechicle won't start. the fix is to replace your fuel system, at a starting cost of around $10k, and going sharply up from there.

**paddy** · 29th November 2009, 08:39

Originally Posted by Pedrostt500

The problem with the common rail diesle engines and NZ diesle is we have the diesle bug here, it fucks the diesle pumps so quickly that you are not aware of the problem till your vechicle won't start. the fix is to replace your fuel system, at a starting cost of around $10k, and going sharply up from there.

I'm a bit confused. What is "the diesle bug"? How does is break your fuel pump? And why does a broken fuel pump require the entire fuel system to be replaced? I'm not being facetious, I'm genuinely curious.

I'd heard that our diesel tends to be high in sulphur, but I can't see that causing the types of issue given above.

**James Deuce** · 29th November 2009, 08:42

Hyundai i30s are cheaper to buy AND run than Volkswagen's latest diesel's and the quality is just as good.

**smoky** · 29th November 2009, 08:44

Originally Posted by Pedrostt500

The problem with the common rail diesle engines and NZ diesle is we have the diesle bug here, it fucks the diesle pumps so quickly that you are not aware of the problem till your vechicle won't start.

Yeah - thats why you see them broken down every where??? not

Don't believe everything you read dude

**smoky** · 29th November 2009, 08:48

That is a surprise really

Most government agencies buy not lease - lease deals don't stack up for them.

Treasury put out guidelines on all that kind of stuff for agencies and g departments to follow, VW isn't on their list.
Skoda diesels are very reliable and cheap to run
i30 Hyundai is probably one of the best little fleet vehicles

**James Deuce** · 29th November 2009, 08:53

Originally Posted by smoky

That is a surprise really

Most government agencies buy not lease - lease deals don't stack up for them.

Treasury put out guidelines on all that kind of stuff for agencies and g departments to follow, VW isn't on their list.
Skoda diesels are very reliable and cheap to run
i30 Hyundai is probably one of the best little fleet vehicles

Skoda diesels are VW diesels. Skoda have been on VW platforms since the late 90s.