Les just rolled over

[outlawtorn]

The whole response to Nix Myth from Les Mason and the dude from Ulysses wants to make me puke.

We all knew the game-plan was for ACC to come out proclaiming a huge increase then have Aunty Nikki make us all feel good with a 'significant' reduction.

And what happened? Les Mason and the dude from Ulysses got in the media asserting it was a good outcome and just goes to show how our voices were heard.

Jesus! But what planet are you guys on? We got shafted, as did all other registered road users and employees.

Did any beneficiary get a direct increase? Any superannuant? Any tourist? Did any other road-user, or off-road user get clouted?

The answer is a resounding NO!

Did Tricky Nikki come out and confirm that ACC is now an insurance company? NO!

Did he confirm that in line with all insurance companies, non-claimants would get a no-claims bonus? NO

We got shafted and our so-called representatives just rolled over and took it up the arse.

Les, I didn't ride all the way to Welly, and/or spend the time and money I have spent on fighting the increases just to have the likes of you roll over like a satisfied doormat.

You should be ashamed of yourself.

hey dpex, you truly are a dipshit mate, how much of your personal time have you sacrificed for this cause? Fuck all compared to what Les is doing and continues to do for the bikers in this country. Get of your lazy arse and help, put in the hard yards then maybe, just maybe you might have some grounds for a statement like this.

[FIDH]

Fuck me.. You are a stuck up cunt aint ya? Next time, How about you go and take the role of Media Communications.. See how you do it?

All i can say is Well done Les and Anyone else that was in the Media spotlight. You done me, And most likely everyone else, Proud! I congratulate you for all the hard work you guys done. Well done!

O.P.. go find something else to complain about. No. We are not happy about the rises.. Just be thankful that your 1000cc beast or w/e it is you are running around on isnt gonna cost ya $900 a year

I haven't even read the whole thread ... but man, this is a post that needed responding to.

Whilst no increase is the ultimate goal, any reduction in the initial figures being bandied about is welcome. I for one am happy that I won't be paying shitloads extra to register my bike next time the rego runs out.

I will still protest in favour of no increase at all, and continue to point out the inequity of hitting big bikes, or ANY registered bike, with a levy increase. Especially whilst offroaders hit trees and cyclists run red lights and pay not a fucking bean. Damn right it ain't fair.

But you felt the need to bring out the c word. Why? Reflection?

[flyingcrocodile46]

But you felt the need to bring out the c word. Why?

Cause 'Meat flower' doesn't have the same impact.

[StoneY]

But you felt the need to bring out the c word. Why? Reflection?

Coz he's young bro, and feels its more impact with obsenities

HB is an impressionable young bloke, we will make a biker of him yet
He made a good point too....

Ultimately, the thing I forgot to bite on, is how far did DPEX 'ride all the way to Wellington' from?

I wonder...did Les ride further????
I know he walked further...all the way from the Stadium right up to Nix wee office on floor 5 of the Big House!

[Hopeful Bastard]

But you felt the need to bring out the c word. Why? Reflection?

hahaha. No.. He just pushed my buttons on a bad day. Anyone that didnt contribute to talking with media like Les or Peter, and then goes and writes that they are pissed off with those two, Doesnt deserve to be alive on the same planet as them.

I am pissed at Government, yet very happy with Les's and Peter's Contribution they made for us. Again, Job well done Les and Peter

[Laxi]

les rocks! that statement by peter left a bad taste in my mouth though

[StoneY]

Again, Job well done Les and Peter

Dont you go praising Peter too highly mate, because I tell you right now he had NOTHING to do with OUR campaign, hes on his own personal crusade

On the 30th october he told me on the phone we were 'poles apart' in our views and goals, that any large group ride was a pending disaster (there WAS truth to that to be fair)

On the 31st he publicly stated 'do not place all your faith in the BIKEOI' and that we needed to work 'with the Ministar and ACC' to achieve any result

The kudos due to Ulysses for BIKEOI effort is all Howard Mansell, John (Koroj) and Ken (Kennif?) those 3 organised the ride marshalling teams, the Ulysses Disciples and all the good vibes between both camps came largely from these 3 gentelmens VERY hard work

A lot of people have bagged Ulysses over Peter's statements, UNFAIRLY I will say

[Hopeful Bastard]

Well then, Job well Done Les and Stoner.. I mean StoneY !!

[dpex]

Yeah well, you lot can keep blowing smoke up Les's arse for as long as you like, but the facts remain.

1. Les arranged a couple of groupies....none of which altered the outcome of Smith's original plan.....And I was there for both of them.

2. Les got himself on TV. Smith did what he had already decided to do.

3. We didn't get a zero rise.

Now I'd like to ask you all a question, prefaced by the following....

Bikers are generally seen by the wider public as patched, hairy, dirty, speedsters, reckless, mostly DIC, careless, space invaders (lane splitters) and generally as folk to be ignored before being flogged.

Is it not the case that we really ought to be presenting the 'best face' to our audience...ergo the public, in order to gain their support?

And so here's the question.....

Does Les, with his mouth filled with clearly rotting teeth.....which I notice the TV cameras seem to be linked.....present the image we wish to portray?

Resounding NO.

Would not a clean-cut, sort've Sean Penn type, not be a slightly better image?

As sad as I am to say it, mainly because I actually don't like being personally offensive to other than the Katmans of the world....And there's only two of them...Katman and my mother...

But Les, I'm sorry, but I find your mouth full of rotting teeth offensive. And at the end of the day, I probably represent a largish proportion of folk who would find similarly.

You are not the person I wish to have representing me on national television.

And given you have rolled over ahead of Nix Myth's 'very conciliatory' reduction in proposed levies, I don't want you representing me as a pissed off biker.

I'm going to put me efforts behind the Wellington guy who shares my belief that all targeted ACC levies are a sham.

[Voltaire]

DPEX

I'm going to put me efforts behind the Wellington guy

.....lucky Wellington guy...

[Squiggles]

Lets get the whale rider girl on, pretty face, pretty clueless

[Ronin]

But Les, I'm sorry, but I find your mouth full of rotting teeth offensive. And at the end of the day, I probably represent a largish proportion of folk who would find similarly.
.

Thats ok, there are a large amount of people who find your opinions offensive. Evens out in the end.

[Pussy]

As sad as I am to say it, mainly because I actually don't like being personally offensive to other than the Katmans of the world....And there's only two of them...Katman and my mother...

Katman is a good bastard.
Any truth in the story going round that when you were born, the doctor slapped your Mother??

[flyingcrocodile46]

2. Les got himself on TV.

Oh dear! Someone is miffed that the TV crews found Les more appealing than himself. Awwwwwww Such a shame. It's hard to believe that all your chest puffing still couldn't hide your big gut eh!

[outlawtorn]

Yeah well, you lot can keep blowing smoke up Les's arse for as long as you like, but the facts remain.

1. Les arranged a couple of groupies....none of which altered the outcome of Smith's original plan.....And I was there for both of them.

2. Les got himself on TV. Smith did what he had already decided to do.

3. We didn't get a zero rise.

Now I'd like to ask you all a question, prefaced by the following....

Bikers are generally seen by the wider public as patched, hairy, dirty, speedsters, reckless, mostly DIC, careless, space invaders (lane splitters) and generally as folk to be ignored before being flogged.

Is it not the case that we really ought to be presenting the 'best face' to our audience...ergo the public, in order to gain their support?

And so here's the question.....

Does Les, with his mouth filled with clearly rotting teeth.....which I notice the TV cameras seem to be linked.....present the image we wish to portray?

Resounding NO.

Would not a clean-cut, sort've Sean Penn type, not be a slightly better image?

As sad as I am to say it, mainly because I actually don't like being personally offensive to other than the Katmans of the world....And there's only two of them...Katman and my mother...

But Les, I'm sorry, but I find your mouth full of rotting teeth offensive. And at the end of the day, I probably represent a largish proportion of folk who would find similarly.

You are not the person I wish to have representing me on national television.

And given you have rolled over ahead of Nix Myth's 'very conciliatory' reduction in proposed levies, I don't want you representing me as a pissed off biker.

I'm going to put me efforts behind the Wellington guy who shares my belief that all targeted ACC levies are a sham.

Well if you don't want Les to represent you then feel free to start your own "Gay Bike Riders Club of New Zealand"....prick.

Oh and BTW the guy from Wellington feels exactly the same as Les does and shares exactly the same sentiments as Les, so please pull your head out of your arse before making comments like that, remember the guy from Wellington is a BRONZ member too, and Les has spoken to him more times than you've swung your leg over your very gay looking bike. Shitstain!