So - Is not paying ANY ACC the answer?

[davereid]

Parking nazi's only ever look at month / year.

Don't pay rego and offer to only pay the road user charge, if not accepted.....
scan / copy / edit / print.
The card weight / texture they use is not hard to find and with today printers and puters......

I'm not going to pay rego, but you are a fucken idiot if you make a false label.

That changes it from not paying the rego, fine $200 to fraud. Fine $100,000 plus 10 years.

[Highlander]

What is the fine for no Rego?

Those that are saying they will put thier rego on hold are counting on getting pinged once, whos to say they wont get pinged 3-4 times during a year?

I can see rego/warrent check points on the increase.

Or even 3 -4 times during a day? I have been out for a two hour ride and been reg / wof checked twice in that time at random stops in different towns that I was passing through.

But bringing Nix Myth to his knees either figuratively or literally is an act of violence. Either way will demean him as a person and seriously damage him emotionally, well this is what the past 20 years of PC bullshit will have us believe

And then he can get ACC cover for Stress related to his job.

For those proposing not paying their Reg, and then not paying the fine either, I guess you are also not planning on heading overseas for your holidays? What about when the courts find against you and send the balif round to your house to collect anything of value to pay your fines? How much are you prepared to pay in order to avoid paying the increase in ACC levy tagged on to you registration?

[mikeey01]

fine $200 to fraud. Fine $100,000 plus 10 years.

Thanks you've answered my question, now I know which of the two is the cheapest!
For the record my rego is legit and will be going on hold when it comes due early next year.

[caseye]

It's been this way for ever - funny how it is a issue now. It is not a Motorcycle only issue as it affects all multi vehicle owners - hell even my trailer rego has a very small ACC content in it - probably due to some motorcyclist cutting a corner and hitting a parked trailer

The only way that not paying the additional rego would work is if 90% of motorcyclists did not pay, and then did not pay the associated fines. That would get their attention. A handful of bikers getting fines for unregistered bikes will only add to the Government coffers.

If you want to address the multi-user issue start writing to your MP and Nick Smith and ACC. A letter to Parliament costs nothing to post.

Now this is a good idea, even John Judge said that this was an issue that needed redressing.So get those letters rolling to him and ACC' Insurances CEO and Nick F...ing Smyth.Lets get the ball rolling on this one too.
Once again we motorcyclists are going to take the hit first for the good of the general public.

[Highlander]

Still cant understand how when I go out to the garage and gear up then hop on, umm, umm, umm the RED bike I'm suddenly half the risk I would be if I got in the BLUE one just because it is 400cc as opposed to 1100cc.

I get Registrations sent to me for 3 cars and 3 bikes, some days none of them are being used, other days 5 of them could be being used. I think the only way to attack the multy registration issue is to charge by fuel (which they do as well) or Km travelled (like Diesel road user charges).

[Katman]

For those proposing not paying their Reg, and then not paying the fine either, I guess you are also not planning on heading overseas for your holidays?

If bikers are being fined regularly and are regularly refusing to pay the fine (and the ensuing court imposed ruling) it will only take a matter of weeks before the system is clogged.

Taken to it's conclusion, I envisage the government being forced to sit down and talk sense with us and an amnesty granted for those who have partaken in the civil disobedience.

[Voltaire]

Anyone got John Judges contact details?

I'd like to ask him that if motorists are subsidising motorcycles....what is is called when I have three registered motorcycles and two registered vans and there is only one of me using them.

If it is indeed a personal injury insurance scheme rather than a compensation scheme why am I paying multiple premiums?

[caseye]

Anyone got John Judges contact details?

I'd like to ask him that if motorists are subsidising motorcycles....what is is called when I have three registered motorcycles and two registered vans and there is only one of me using them.

If it is indeed a personal injury insurance scheme rather than a compensation scheme why am I paying multiple premiums?

Damn fine question there voli.

[MSTRS:Me]

Not paying rego has a certain appeal. But for it to be effective, it would have to be every single bike. It's a numbers game, after all, and it would take fairly big numbers to 'crash' the system.
Another way would be to put on hold, and stop riding. Every single bike is still in the NZTA system, but not ACC's. After a year of no riding *shudder* their accident stats would 'prove' that bikes are not dangerous anymore and the levy can be reduced to fuckall. Then we can start riding again. The cagers will love the reduced congestion too...

[Highlander]

....
Another way would be to put on hold, and stop riding....

Stop Riding? No thanks, I'd rather shove wasps up my arse.

[MSTRS:Me]

Stop Riding? No thanks, I'd rather shove wasps up my arse.

Yea yea...my point was that we can fuck with ACC's income, or we can fuck with the crash stats. It's too much to expect no crashes if we keep riding.
(sorry KM - I know it would ideal if that could happen)

[Katman]

It's too much to expect no crashes if we keep riding.

(sorry KM - I know it would ideal if that could happen)

Won't stop me trying.

[Ender EnZed]

The fine is $1,000, it's the 'instant fine' that is $200.

News to me. Could someone expand on how this works? (Assuming courts and such aren't clogged)

[davereid]

News to me. Could someone expand on how this works? (Assuming courts and such aren't clogged)

Instant fines are usually set much lower than the theoretical maximum that the court could impose as a way of encouraging people to pay them without going to court.

[cowpatz]

Perhaps frequently putting the reg on hold for short periods is a way to cause havoc. It will really clog up the system to have the reg on hold for 2 weeks then renewed again for 2 weeks later on and then do it all over again.