Can we tie motorbikes to greenhouse gas reductions?

[YellowDog]

This is what most people miss, yes most motorcycles are fuel efficient in that they get good fuel economy/MPG/kpL etc BUT as far as pollution goes they are pretty shit (but getting better).

Does anyone know if the Euro emissions levels i.e Euro 3 are a set standard for all vehicles or do they have separate standard for cars/bikes/trucks/etc?

We don't even need to have catalytic converters on new bikes in NZ.

The Jeremy Clarkson arguament states that the CO2 issue from road vehicles is miniscule when compared to other contributors and making saving is just a waste of time.

Such arguments and issues have been designed by the powers that be to appease the proletariat.

[wbks]

Just heard on the radio that 2050 is an important date with regard to the greenhouse gas issue. Isn't it also the projected date which "some" want to have a motorcycle-free NZ?

Is there some way we can tie the two together given that motorbikes surely use less petrol, put out less shit etc. than if we all had to transfer our travel arrangements to cars?

I'm completely confused (not difficult to do unfortunately!) that with the whole greenhouse thing being such a global bogeyman at the moment our chosen form of transport, which surely is much cleaner, is bearing the brunt of such aggressive attempted decimation.

Who wants motorcycle free NZ by 2050? And yes, when you can find a vehicle that can out perform most race cars on the track, and in reliability, yet also uses less fuel than many cars touted as "eco friendly" then why the hell shouldn't motorcycles be part of the solution?

[R6_kid:Me]

We don't even need to have catalytic converters on new bikes in NZ.

Most people I know that have performance cars with catalytic converters have cored out the pipe and put a straight pipe through it. Passes a WOF test but doesn't restrict the air flow

The Jeremy Clarkson arguament states that the CO2 issue from road vehicles is miniscule when compared to other contributors and making saving is just a waste of time.

Such arguments and issues have been designed by the powers that be to appease the proletariat.

The focus on emissions reductions should be on industry etc, but I think that it is smart to push for cleaner running vehicles, buses and trucks especially! I still believe that in terms of climate change we should be focusing on surviving the change rather than trying to stop it/slow it down - but that's not what this discussion is about.

[peasea]

More pollutants came out of Mt St Helens in one bang than all the cars and bikes in the history of cars and bikes. The climate is changing but it's not all mankind's fault and mankind can't do jack shit about it. Taxing the crap out of everyone is a crock that won't change a thing.

If you want to tidy up the planet shoot a greenie. I'm sick to death of the whole sideshow.

[Pussy]

More pollutants came out of Mt St Helens in one bang than all the cars and bikes in the history of cars and bikes. The climate is changing but it's not all mankind's fault and mankind can't do jack shit about it. Taxing the crap out of everyone is a crock that won't change a thing.

If you want to tidy up the planet shoot a greenie. I'm sick to death of the whole sideshow.

If anything, it will force us to eat more lentils.. which will contribute to more methane emission....