ACC ad in Dominion Nov 5 (now with 100% more PDF)

[pzkpfw]

There was an ad in the Dominion this morning, from the ACC.

See post #4 of this thread.


Basically listing their claims (like the 16 x more likely to have an accident etc.).

They mentioned the submissions process - I wonder if they are trying to get some subs from drivers saying "yeah, go for it"?

Anyway, is it worth getting together some rebuttal for each of the points raised and submit a counter-advertisment?


(It's a quarter page, page A10. Wonder what it cost?)




It's Guy Fawkes day!

[FROSTY:Me]

There was an ad in the Dominion this morning, from the ACC.

Basically listing their claims (like the 16 x more likely to have an accident etc.).

They mentioned the submissions process - I wonder if they are trying to get some subs from drivers saying "yeah, go for it"?

Anyway, is it worth getting together some rebuttal for each of the points raised and submit a counter-advertisment?

At lunch-time I'll get the ad details in here, if no-one beats me to it.

(It's a quarter page, page A10. Wonder what it cost?)




It's Guy Fawkes day!

Im sorry ol son this must be an oxymoron surely. They're broke so how can they possibly spend thousands on a paper advert?

[davereid]

Interestingly, the advert is full of the same old lies. Which actually shows they have no new ammo, and are resorting to "tell the lie over and over and over until people think its true."

[pzkpfw]

Here it is.

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[yungatart]

Does this show that they are getting desperate?

I think they are definitely on the back foot, and know it!
Keep the pressure on folks!

[PrincessBandit]

Here it is.

"One way to reduce ACC fees will be to stop binning"

If only that were true. Somehow I think that even if every motorcyclist in NZ stayed completely accident free for a whole year, they would still stick with their claim that our "potential" for accidents remains their justification for bleeding us dry.

I just love the whip-up-a-anti-motorcyclist style of their propaganda. This just proves we have to work hard at ensuring that non-riding Joe Public sees that we aren't all hoons who deserve what the ACC are trying to do to us. If that ad is not a blatant attempt to get the motoring public on their side against us I don't know what is.

[vifferman]

It was also in The Harold this morning.
I'm glad they cleared things up for us - I'm not worried about the ACC increase any more.

[Big Dave]

List each statement and then our/your argument refute it.

[EgliHonda]

Actually that does appear to smack of desperation...

[DidJit]

The phrase ‘grasping at straws’ comes to mind...
Still, it has very selective copy and is written in an authorititave tone — non-thinking non-questioning Joe Public would swallow that. We have to keep up our efforts at informing the public of National/ACC's misinformation campaign.

[EgliHonda]

List each statement and then our/your argument refute it.

What he said... drafting it out now.

Particularly like this one, doesn't it just reinforce the theory of licencing riders rather than machines...?

[bogan]

Still much the same pack of BS, at least they have left the $77 cross subsidy in there, cos the intelligence needed to see through that is about year 7.

Still, I had hoped once the satistical errors were brought to thier attention they would have a rethink, guess they probably werent errors in the first place though sigh, I had expected better from the leaders of a fucking country.

[Azi Dahaka]

this is just wrong on so many levels. but as it has been said same old lies, same old crap and several thousand dolars to post an add which they could be using on claims.

[davereid]

Whos knows anything about advertising ?

Arent adverts that make incorrect or unsubstantiated claims illegal ?

[Big Dave]

It's good - ammunition.

Why are motorcyclists being singled out:

So that a precedent for massive levy hikes is established. These Draconian measures can then be imposed at on other groups in the community at will. The answer ACC gives to this question is a clear message they will be targeting any group. Don't let them use motorcyclists to open the floodgates. YOU could be next.
It is in contravention of the Woodhouse principles upon which ACC is based and is a violation of basic Civil Rights.

Why are motorcyclist being asked to pay more.

Because ACC have decided to ignore the Woodhouse Principles and have adopted a policy of discrimination. There are many activities and pastimes in the community that cost taxpayers much more than motorcyclists - but these groups are NOT being subjected to huge levy increases.

Gotta do some work. More to come - or if someone has better.