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    Quote Originally Posted by grusomhat View Post
    I was trying to find out what bands are used in New Zealand regarding speed radars and I stumbled upon the NZ police Operating Speed Measuring Devices guide.

    I found this but quite interesting


    I've now just noticed that the guide has expired at the start of this year. BUT, is that guide gospel, ie could be used against speeding tickets from passing or is it simply just a guide.

    Also when they say target, does that simply mean that they can't sit there and wait, but a cop can still drive pass and catch you?

    Source:http://www.police.govt.nz/resources/...ide/index.html

    Oh and to my original reason for searching, what bands need to be activated on a radar detector?
    Damn, I wish I had this to reference back when I got ticketed for 112km/h. I was side-by-side with some 4wd coming towards the lanes merging so I sped up just enough so we wouldn't collide when we merged. I got pinged by the cop waiting there I wrote a letter in saying that I was trying to avoid an accident but they replied saying it was no excuse, just as it's no excuse to be speeding when overtaking I'm still of the opinion that the less time I spend on the wrong side of the road, the better

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    absolutely. you could have slowed and pulled in behind, or not even bothered starting the manouver in the first place.

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    And it's been posted before but it's always a good read for those who haven't seen it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by mctshirt View Post
    You might want to read the 2009 version first
    http://www.police.govt.nz/sites/defa...nforcement.pdf
    I like the "trauma promoting offences" bit...
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    Can they invent a machine to automatically shoot the wankers who speed up on passing lanes.

    That would be more useful, and save people having to do 140 to pass someone that is going to slow down to 80 when there is only one lane again.

    But I digress, sorry, as you were.....
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    Quote Originally Posted by neels View Post
    Can they invent a machine to automatically shoot the wankers who speed up on passing lanes.

    That would be more useful, and save people having to do 140 to pass someone that is going to slow down to 80 when there is only one lane again.

    But I digress, sorry, as you were.....
    You're allowed to digress, that's one of my pet hates.

    They'll even hit the brakes to get back down to 80 once they get to the single lane, the muftis should be targeting these arseholes

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    Quote Originally Posted by TimeOut View Post
    You're allowed to digress, that's one of my pet hates.

    They'll even hit the brakes to get back down to 80 once they get to the single lane, the muftis should be targeting these arseholes
    Heh, If I'm driving a car I'm usually pretty relaxed and not looking to go fast so I generally do the opposite of that if there's someone looking to pass. I usually sit on 105 and brake down to 90 then back up and the end. It's only fair!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Berries View Post
    It is just a guide and you couldn't use non compliance as a defence. I think the reason for it is that the camera is not as clever as the Stalker. Overtaking vehicle doing 140km/h. FLASH. Photo comes out showing two vehicles side by side. Which one is speeding ? The camera doesn't know so straight away there is some doubt.

    Single vehicle doing 140km/h in passing lane. FLASH. You're nicked, guide or no guide.
    Camera OP I was talking to recently with these new digital ones says the cameras can be set up for multiple lanes, both approaching and heading away, and can differentiate which lane the speeder is in...... so it doesn't matter how many are in the picture, it will tell what lane the speeder is in, in the picture.

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    I doubt the guide has to be followed at all.

    I've seen plenty of camera vans and police cars parked during, the end, and just after the end of passing lanes. imho, a stupid policy, partly due to the bastards that speed up while in the passing lane (sooo tempting to want to thump them) and also, once drivers know this, it will only encourage overtaking in more dangerous places, as logic would dictate you have less chance of being caught. Yes, the roaming cars are still a risk, but identical to the passing lane.

    The new camera vans don't seem to stand out as much for me, and yes, their detection by the radar detector is much less, sometimes only warning you when you're basically on them. For all the K alerts from friggen door openers, I'm wondering whether to turn it off again.
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    Quote Originally Posted by neels View Post
    Can they invent a machine to automatically shoot the wankers who speed up on passing lanes.

    That would be more useful, and save people having to do 140 to pass someone that is going to slow down to 80 when there is only one lane again.
    Why do bikers think like this? Why not just slip past them when they are going slow? You don't need a passing lane when on a bike.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Patrick View Post
    Camera OP I was talking to recently with these new digital ones says the cameras can be set up for multiple lanes, both approaching and heading away, and can differentiate which lane the speeder is in...... so it doesn't matter how many are in the picture, it will tell what lane the speeder is in, in the picture.
    They possibly have direction sensing like the Stalker mobile units - that's not difficult using the doppler effect - but there is no way they could differentiate between two vehicles travelling in the same direction as in the passing lane situation.
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