Separate the Police from the scum...

[scumdog]

WHAT?!?!?!?!?
Sorry but that is BS - the old cop shop was just as bad as the new one. At least the new one can only sit on their arse holding a radar.
The "good - ol' cops" were corrupt, racist arseholes who had dodgey dealings on all sides.

Ooh, you make it seem so...wrong..

[Skyryder]

I'd listen to SD on this one. The MOT officers had no where near as much law enforcment legislation as they will have now if the 'powers' are seperated.

Some of them could be real shits. One thing with the police they do get proper training and if they stuff up there is a fair bit of media attention on them. This will not happen to the same extent with unwarrented personal. Still it's a signal that the merger has not worked and just for the record I was against this at the time it happened.




Skyryder

[idleidolidyll]

Ooh, you make it seem so...wrong..

it was all wrong

as i've said before, my disrespect for the cops started when i was very young

getting booked at 16 years old for going too slow and holding up a cop when i was at thew back of a line of traffic set the scene

likewise the other police; first hand experience of racist cops and cops into very dodgy shit but of course they were, and still are to a great extent, a law unto themselves and in the 70's, only a fool would try to do anything about the corrupt cops

[Mr Merde]

Mr III,
We got our own back occasionally.
I remember getting home from my basic army training to be greeted by the baliffs. They were there to collect the fine for "riding witrhout a WOF". I was in Waiouru at the supposed time. Baliffs told me to appeal the case. I did and gathered documents. A leteer from my commanding officer stating that i was in Waiouru and not awol at the time. Minutes before the case was heard in the appeal court the MOT cop approached me and told me that they knew it wasnt me but if I didnt plead guilty they would do my little brother for theft. I stood before the judge (court of appeal has judges not magistrates) and pleaded guilty. Judge asked me why and I pointed to the MOT sargent and said in a loud voice "because if I didnt he was going to proscecute my brother for theft". The whole court laughed and the judge commended me on using my rights. As I had pleade guilty he had to fine me. 50 cents. No points , no costs. He then turned to the cop and ordered him to meet in the judges chambers immediately.

I like to think that this particular cops career was screwed because of that.

Mr III, I hope you remember this case little brother.

[SixPackBack]

Beware of what you wish for.

IF they do have a 'new' Traffic Department you may well find it is manned by even more zealous types handing out even more tickets for even more trivial offences...53kph anyone???.

Agreed. Ozzie coppers ticket from 1kmh over the limit.

[smoky]

...... this is how the disease broke out in the UK but it rapidly went from black spots to any spots. Anywhere and everywhere now, no authoritative body can resist when the money starts rolling in.

After living there for some considerable time, I have to say the one ticket I received in 6 years was from a camera, the 8 I have received in the last 5 years back in NZ have all been from Nazi Police
We are so over policed on our roads it's ridiculous, and the practice of Police sitting 'fishing' for revenue is pathetic.

Give me the Police in the UK any day, over the NZ dorks

[MIXONE]

After living there for some considerable time, I have to say the one ticket I received in 6 years was from a camera, the 8 I have received in the last 5 years back in NZ have all been from Nazi Police
We are so over policed on our roads it's ridiculous, and the practice of Police sitting 'fishing' for revenue is pathetic.

Give me the Police in the UK any day, over the NZ dorks

I think the sight of a 5o car on the side of the road "fishing" is a far greater deterant to shit driving then a camera.
8 tickets in 5 years?I suppose you are another one getting persecuted then.

[smoky]

I think the sight of a 5o car on the side of the road "fishing" is a far greater deterant to shit driving then a camera.
8 tickets in 5 years?I suppose you are another one getting persecuted then.

Another puritanical prick


I don't care what anyone thinks, if you do upwards of 1500 ks a week you'll start accumulating tickets in NZ.

I use to drive a lot quicker in the UK, I've had to slow down dramatically in NZ. Fair enough, there seems to be too many idiots killing themselves here and we seem to think more police and wanky ideas will sort it out. (Not enough being done about improving our roads or targeting police where it will make a difference).

The thing with non discriminating cameras are; they don't normally put them at the end of double laned sections of road catching people trying to get passed slower traffic, you don't normally see them 200 meters before open road signs catching those who start accelerating to soon. They don't single out WRX's, Skyline's, Alpha Romeo's... or other particular cars because their owners must be boy racers or drug dealers

[scumdog]

(Not enough being done about improving our roads ).

Speaking of which, how many serious crashes are 'caused' by bad roads as say opposed to efwitted drivers not paying attention to what is all around them?

Not a lot I expect.

(And yes, before all you start screeching your keyboards off I do realise ANY crash is bad, regardless of cause)

[FJRider]

I use to drive a lot quicker in the UK, I've had to slow down dramatically in NZ. Fair enough, there seems to be too many idiots killing themselves here and we seem to think more police and wanky ideas will sort it out. (Not enough being done about improving our roads or targeting police where it will make a difference).

The current Police policy is working then ...

I would expect anyone doing "upwards of 1500 km's a week" to be suitably qualified to handle "dangerous" roads, by travelling over them at an appropiate speed. A speed that is both safe ... and legal.

[Kickaha]

Another puritanical prick
I don't care what anyone thinks, if you do upwards of 1500 ks a week you'll start accumulating tickets in NZ.

I do 1500km a fortnight so I must be below the threshold because I have yet to get one

[red mermaid]

I do about 1000 km a week and are yet to get a ticket.

[Kickaha]

I do about 1000 km a week and are yet to get a ticket.

But you're under the 1500km a week threshold to, things must change when you get to that

[SixPackBack]

I do 1500km a fortnight so I must be below the threshold because I have yet to get one

Harley riders and owner/riders of antique motorsickles hardly add weight to the argument

[scumdog]

Harley riders and owner/riders of antique motorsickles hardly add weight to the argument

Now THERE'S non-sequituer to 'go straight in the pool-room'!