Separate the Police from the scum...

[smoky]

Speaking of which, how many serious crashes are 'caused' by bad roads as say opposed to efwitted drivers not paying attention to what is all around them?

Not a lot I expect.

And that's about as pathetic an answer as one would expect from someone who has so been brian washed they no longer possesses the capacity for logic

if someone is stuck behind truck after truck, then behind a caravan then held up by a line of traffic with some old person pootling along - gets frustrated and tries to over take in dangerous place - result; fatal accident, then of course you wankers put it all down to efwitted drivers. the rest of the world provide top class roads with duel carriage ways.

We have tons of room in this country but there is a reluctance to widen roads!

[smoky]

But you're under the 1500km a week threshold to, things must change when you get to that

I do about 1000 km a week and are yet to get a ticket.

Rangiora, Manawatu - may have something to do with it.
Try living up here an commuting to Auckland
When I was tripping to Te Kuiti daily I would see at lest 3 and sometimes as many as 5 cops each way on a 40 minute drive.
There wouldn't be a day driving to Auckland where I don't see at lest 4 or 5 each way. on Friday there were 6 camera vans between Hamilton and Auckland city.

I went years without getting tickets, then I changed cars to a model that seemed to get more attention despite driving at the same speeds, so I have changed it and hope to avoid any more tickets

[scumdog]

We have tons of room in this country put there is a reluctance to widen roads!

But we don't have fuckin' tons of money to create this wish of yours (by the sounds of it a coutry full of autobahn like roading), we're a tin-pot country with the population of one city in say, the USA - but spread thoughout a pretty unstable and stretched-out landscape covering way more real estate than said US city.

Sorry to bite at your troll but some may take it on face value what you said was the nub of the matter.

And to rub it in I do loads of km - but not all in the 'work' car - yet my one speeding ticket was in 1987....(go, bag me for driving/riding like a granny, I don't worry)

[smoky]

But we don't have fuckin' tons of money to create this wish of yours (by the sounds of it a coutry full of autobahn like roading), we're a tin-pot country with the population of one city in say, the USA - but spread thoughout a pretty unstable and stretched-out landscape covering way more real estate than said US city.

Sorry to bite at your troll but some may take it on face value what you said was the nub of the matter.

It's only one answer, and you'll find what we spend per capita on roading is not up to international standards, and the quality of the roading is crap - old thinking, old techniques.

I do loads of km - but not all in the 'work' car - yet my one speeding ticket was in 1987....(go, bag me for driving/riding like a granny, I don't worry)

as I said before, it has a lot to do with where you drive and what you drive

I've done 30,000ks on my bike this year with no tickets on that

[scumdog]

It's only one answer, and you'll find what we spend per capita on roading is not up to international standards, and the quality of the roading is crap - old thinking, old techniques.

Then find what they ARE spending the money on and make them spend it on roading instead..I bet those beneficiarys will appreciate how much better the roads are when they pick up their benefit - and the old, infirm and unwell as won't get jiggled too much when out and about too...

But seriously, where are those '$ per capita on roading' figures? and what other countries are we comparing here?

[idleidolidyll]

they don't have to spend ANY extra money

contracts and by laws have always required the roads to be left in safe condition OR signposted

that suggests that there is no will to police the dangerous after effects of road works: what are the police doing about this road danger?

do YOU ever report gravel or book any companies/councils for CREATING dangerous roads?

[spudchucka]

There are plenty of sworn police that are assholes. I reckon start a website up with examples of their stupidity. That will make them think twice.

Steve

Sort of like how Kiwibiker has become a web site for posting examples of biker stupidity, (especially those from Edgecumbe)??

[avgas]

We have tons of room in this country but there is a reluctance to widen roads!

Errr sir you do realise the population in NZ is less that a pub in Farnborough?
Who will pay for such roads?

I do believe you are a little unrealistic. You say the roads are dangerous? Yet you don't want to fix it.

ITS NOT MY FAULT!! WAAAAA!!! comes to mind.

The day I realised that I could only control myself, was the day I found I got less tickets, crashed less, and was calmer on the road.

But now I am those boring sods you talk about. The responsible adult ones. What a bunch of dicks we are.

[avgas]

do YOU ever report gravel or book any companies/councils for CREATING dangerous roads?

Its the big world buddy - got a problem. fix it yourself.

[idleidolidyll]

what a dumb post: you want ME personally to go out and sweep roads when current laws and contracts actually require the roadworkers to do so?

[avgas]

what a dumb post: you want ME personally to go out and sweep roads when current laws and contracts actually require the roadworkers to do so?

Or quit complaining.....or complain to someone other than us.....
really you have lots of options in front of you.
pick one

[Tank]

what a dumb post: you want ME personally to go out and sweep roads when current laws and contracts actually require the roadworkers to do so?

Anything that has you standing in the middle of the road on corners works for me.

[peasea]

But we don't have fuckin' tons of money to create this wish of yours (by the sounds of it a coutry full of autobahn like roading), we're a tin-pot country with the population of one city in say, the USA - but spread thoughout a pretty unstable and stretched-out landscape covering way more real estate than said US city.

Sorry to bite at your troll but some may take it on face value what you said was the nub of the matter.

And to rub it in I do loads of km - but not all in the 'work' car - yet my one speeding ticket was in 1987....(go, bag me for driving/riding like a granny, I don't worry)

Aha, so you do speed (or have done), thought so.

[Tone165]

To my recolection the whole amalgamation of Traffic and Police was one of those "Political Furphies"

They said

"Vote for us and we'll get 900 more Police because we are all about law and order"

so the ppl voted

and they gave all the traffic cops a new hat and a pay rise..and said

"There ya go suckers...900 new Policemen!"

And now they are going to do it again?????

If you think they are going to do it to make your life better.....contact me urgently as I have this harbour bridge that I need to sell..cheap!

I would like to see a return to the good old days where the Police were generally respected, but suspect that will never happen, ppl are different these days, and the damage is pretty severe!

I suspect that the ppl these days who respect the Police are those who have had very little or no dealings with them. I have had 2 "meetings" with NZ Police and both have been "acceptable" that is to say, they were polite, proffessional, used a little discression, but I still got one (deserved) ticket.

I have had many "meetings" with Qld (Traffic) Police and can tell you without fear of contradiction that they are a pack of brain dead, mean spirited, rude, arrogant, money grabbing, dishonest, Nazi's

The Qld Police have been trying to recruit from NZ Police for a long time..I don't know how successful they have been, I don't recall ever getting pulled over by a Kiwi, perhaps they convert to "asshole" once they get the Qld Uniform and pistol.

[avgas]

The Qld Police have been trying to recruit from NZ Police for a long time..I don't know how successful they have been, I don't recall ever getting pulled over by a Kiwi, perhaps they convert to "asshole" once they get the Qld Uniform and pistol.

Or they don a Nazi SS uniform and work for workcover.......who are apparently above the law and common sense