Will it never end?

[carver]

its more fun to ride a slow bike fast than ride a fast bike slow.

I quite liked riding fast bikes fast however

[bart]

I think it's a similar arguement with cars. 300+ KW, but the safety features have been improving with the power, making the new grunters easier to drive than the old shitters.

For interest sake, how does an old 150hp R1 compare to the new ones. I think in some ways it would be more animal.

[MaxCannon]

The R1's were cleaning up.

Haha - it's not a race dude
I spend most of the time I wasn't riding talking shit and trying to stay out of the sun - but from the bits I saw the 600s seemed to have the edge.
The straight bits aren't very long.

Will be real interesting to see some racing there.

[slowpoke]

For interest sake, how does an old 150hp R1 compare to the new ones. I think in some ways it would be more animal.

Haha, funny you should mention that! I had an old carb'd R1 before I picked up the GSXR1000K7. My R1 was along way from standard but I can honestly say it was a better road bike. With no Euro 3 shite it was light, killed a K5/6 GSXR1000 on the dyno from 5-10000rpm, actually had some under seat storage, decent range, didn't roast anything (new R1?), fuelled perfectly (KTM RC8?) and still had better suspension than any non-pure sports bike (disregarding the Ohlins on mine).

A later model sportsbike would be easier/faster 'round the track but on road I'd take my old R1 any day.....may she rest in peace.

[SPman]

I'd quite like a 98 red and white R1....

[sinned]

The reason for buying overpowered bikes is often not for the power but the other attributes. I don't use the power of the busa and would still buy one for its other good points if it had 50 - 70 less horses.

A wide power band with a max of 110 - 130 HP is useable, any more is more than I can use.

[BMWST?]

all of those bikes will have seriously ueseable power....and that is the appeal of the 1000's.you can ride them in the midrange and despatch ANY other vehicle with the merest twitch of the throttle.

I'm always amused how people argue the merits of outright hp...

What most of them completely don't get, are the merits of the torque that go with them...

Most modern 600's don't make as much torque as 1000's at 4500 rpm.

What does that mean to the average guy, he can ride at the same rate as a screaming 600, not rev past 7000 and maybe maintain a better rythm and be smoother.
Then, of course, if you want to be silly, it's a twist of the wrist away...

exactly.....

[Pixie]

Those big bikes just keep getting hairier....looks like BMW is current king of the heap....185 is over 200 at the crank.......

Akrapovic Stock Dyno Results (2009 or 2010 models)

BMW S1000RR	185.5 @ 13,120
Aprilia RSV4	165 .0@ 12,400
Ducati 1198S	157.4 @ 9,800
Honda CBR1000RR	170.6 @ 12,290
Yamaha YZF-R1	161.6 @ 12,430
Kawasaki ZX-10R	163.1 @ 12,150
Suzuki GSX-R 1000	168.1 @ 11,900
Kawasaki ZX-14	174.0 @ 9,400
Suzuki Hayabusa	179.5 @ 9,300

OK, Listen carefully - The big numbers only happen at peak revs. All these bikes will be producing 30 hp when they are being ridden along the road

[dipshit]

OK, Listen carefully - The big numbers only happen at peak revs. All these bikes will be producing 30 hp when they are being ridden along the road

And they will all be travelling at the same speed when cruising along at 120km/h on the road.

[cmoore]

what about the Yamaha V-Max...197hp@9000rpm

[Swoop]

Strange... I can't see my Harley on the list. Schurly shome mishtake?

Especially after the MotoGP results.

Looking at the Triumph 675 in Street & Sport's window today. That's a bloody nice bike.

Many people are riding too much bike.

The right tool for the job. It does, however, depend on the tool riding it...

[revlikeshit]

Who cares how much hp the bmw is suppose to have.

08 zx10r 0-180mph 17 seconds flat(in 880 yards)...

10.0sec@150mph 1/4 mile..


Stick that in your pipe and smoke it bmw.
Same goes for busas,14's,vmaxs and any other stock 1000 bar (maybe) the duc desmo 990.