Karma perhaps?

[Conquiztador]

Let's all take a step back.

If you were not there or you knew the chap/the owner of the bike, then it is, in my opinion, tricky to know anything re this currently.

The few things we do know:

- A 22 yo chap died riding a bike in PN.
- The pillion, a girl, sustained injuries and is in hospital.
- The police is investigating.

Rest will become clear at a later stage.

[robinm]

Now named http://www.stuff.co.nz/national/3179...r-police-chase
Not from Palmerston North.

[wbks]

Let's all take a step back.

If you were not there or you knew the chap/the owner of the bike, then it is, in my opinion, tricky to know anything re this currently.

The few things we do know:

- A 22 yo chap died riding a bike in PN.
- The pillion, a girl, sustained injuries and is in hospital.
- The police is investigating.

Rest will become clear at a later stage.

What else is there to report? He stole someones bike and his stupid passenger jumped on the back with a wanker, also wearing no helmet, tried to run from the police, and both got fucked up for it...
EDIT: FUCK! The news just reported it as a motorcyclist (big mistake there) who crashed after doing a runner... No mention of the fact that the prick wasn't a motorcyclist, just a bike theif, and he was on a stolen bike at the time. The wanker couldn't just fuck up his own life, he had to put even more shit on the report just as people are taxing the fuck out of us... Sorry if I'm not sympathetic, conquistador

[Grubber]

There have been countless times on here where people have parroted the old "rip my brother biker" bullshit - not knowing whether that biker was a bike thief, a rapist, a wife beater, a child beater, a kiddy fiddler...............

It takes far more than the mere fact that someone rides a motorcycle for me to consider them 'my brother'.

Ditto! Couldn't agree more.

[Conquiztador]

What else is there to report? He stole someones bike and his stupid passenger jumped on the back with a wanker, also wearing no helmet, tried to run from the police, and both got fucked up for it...
EDIT: FUCK! The news just reported it as a motorcyclist (big mistake there) who crashed after doing a runner... No mention of the fact that the prick wasn't a motorcyclist, just a bike theif, and he was on a stolen bike at the time. The wanker couldn't just fuck up his own life, he had to put even more shit on the report just as people are taxing the fuck out of us... Sorry if I'm not sympathetic, conquistador

Not question of symphaty. Just trying to make the point that on here all and his dog jump in with opinions w/o knowing the facts.

New fact one: He was not from PN.

[caseye]

So now we know that the bike was stolen.
"Mr Handcock said the motorcycle had been stolen".
Quoted directly from the news item that named the guy.
ACC should never have to pay out for this sort of death, it's no accident when you wind throttle to get away from the Police.Remember the bike Was stolen and he did a runner.
The young woman is in a serious condition,Did she know the bike was stolen?
Who cares!. She has survived a terrible experience and in all probability will never hop on the back of a bike again.Lesson learn't.
Should ACC pay for her rehabilitation?.
Sorry should we????
I say No.

[Conquiztador]

Fixed that up for you.

I very much dislike someone changing what I have written and then stating that as a quote from me.

You might be right in what you assume, but you might also be wrong, and would you not look like and idiot then... Ooopsss...no change there.

[Conquiztador]

So now we know that the bike was stolen.
"Mr Handcock said the motorcycle had been stolen".
Quoted directly from the news item that named the guy.
.

Perhaps you are right. But perhaps he had a set of plates on the bike that his mate had lent him as his bike was missing them, and the reason he did do a runner was because his bike was not in the system?

My point is that we just don't know.

[Conquiztador]

Cry me a fucking river, twat.

I see that you have grown up since last time we had a disagreement. How bout you attack my opinion and not me? Or do you have problems understanding the difference?

[Genie]

It makes no difference what any of us say ....A poor mother has lost her son, a father has lost his son.

We've all done bad stuff in our lives, we've all made fuck-ups. This young man fucked up. He was young and had so much to learn, he learns no more.

I hope others of his age may learn from this....

[Hitcher]

that is just so sad on so many levels.....geez

No it isn't. I have little sympathy for anybody who does stupid shit and gets badly injured or worse or whose actions and lack of thought result in others getting badly injured or worse. I feel sympathy for innocent bystanders(TM) who meet with harm. Otherwise I believe that people should take responsibility for their actions.

[Hitcher]

I hope others of his age may learn from this...

Not a chance, based on over 2,000 generations of human evolution.

[caseye]

Perhaps you are right. But perhaps he had a set of plates on the bike that his mate had lent him as his bike was missing them, and the reason he did do a runner was because his bike was not in the system?

My point is that we just don't know.

Quite possible Conquiztador, but not likely and these days the Police are quite pedantic about what they say and When.
My main point really, is that while someone has died and thats never a good thing.if the circumstances are as we've been told, then my/our only real concern about this is should the desperately under funded ACC pay out? My answer would always have been . No. since a long time ago this sort of pandering and squandering is partly why ACC is shafting us STILL!

[Katman]

I see that you have grown up since last time we had a disagreement. How bout you attack my opinion and not me? Or do you have problems understanding the difference?

Sorry, but my bleeding heart has been bled dry.

[wbks]

It makes no difference what any of us say ....A poor mother has lost her son, a father has lost his son.

We've all done bad stuff in our lives, we've all made fuck-ups. This young man fucked up. He was young and had so much to learn, he learns no more.

I hope others of his age may learn from this....

So when does someone become a shithead that shouldn't be sympathized with? When it's too late and they've already killed or raped a few? And at which point do you stop saying "we all make fuckups" and see someone as scum? Drink driving killing an entire family is surely a fuckup, but we all make fuckups in life, right?

My point is that we just don't know.

What will it take for you to "know" these facts that have been released by the police? You accept his death as fact but not the fact that he was evading the police and had stolen someones bike?